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Interview: 'I Am Quite Hopeful That A Win-Win Solution Is Possible' On Kosovo

British Foreign Minister William Hague (left) meets with Serbian President Boris Tadic in Belgrade on August 31.
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There has been a flurry of diplomatic activity surrounding the issue of Kosovo, ahead of the UN General Assembly session this month in New York. Despite a recent ruling by the UN's highest court saying Kosovo's 2008 independence declaration did not violate international law, Serbia has submitted a draft resolution to the General Assembly that calls on the member states to revisit the issue of whether the declaration was legal.

Top Western diplomats, including British Foreign Minister William Hague and German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, have visited Belgrade in recent days in an effort to urge Serbian officials to soften the tone of the resolution, which goes before the assembly on September 9. Serbian President Boris Tadic has indicated a willingness to discuss possible modifications to the text but says there is no compromise on the issue of Serbia's recognition of Kosovo. "That is the red line that we will not cross," he says.

Dragan Stavljanin, a broadcaster with RFE/RL's Balkans Service, recently spoke about the latest developments with Stefan Wolff, a professor of international security at the University of Birmingham in the U.K. and an expert in postconflict reconstruction.

RFE/RL: It appears that Serbia remains intransigent in furthering its agenda with regard to its draft resolution on Kosovo, despite the very clear message conveyed by British Foreign Secretary William Hague during his recent visit to Belgrade that the Serbian authorities should withdraw their proposal.

Stefan Wolff:
It is not entirely clear yet whether Hague’s visit will have achieved anything tangible regarding Serbia’s stance on Kosovo, including the draft resolution submitted for discussion at the UN General Assembly meeting later this month. What is obvious, however, is that there is significant concern among Serbia’s major Western partners about the draft resolution and that they would like to see it either withdrawn or amended in such a way that it does not further complicate the situation in the Balkans and between the countries of that region and the European Union. This is also clear from the fact that Hague’s visit is the second by a senior Western diplomat in less than a week, following that of the German foreign minister [on August 26].

Stefan Wolff
RFE/RL: German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said in Belgrade a few days ago that the issue of Kosovo should be discussed in Brussels, not in New York. It appears that the EU is keen at any price to avoid a discussion at the upcoming session of the General Assembly, but is an ultimatum to Serbia to withdraw it really possible?

Wolff:
At this stage, and given the publicity that has surrounded the draft resolution, a withdrawal is unlikely in my view and would be rather counterproductive. It would weaken the current Serbian government domestically and could lay the EU open to charges of bullying Serbia. If anything, an amendment might be more helpful. It could endorse further talks between Belgrade and Pristina to resolve a number of issues resulting from Kosovo’s declaration of independence in February 2008 and its subsequent recognition by almost 70 countries, including the United States and 22 out of 27 EU member states.

On the basis of such a resolution, which would avoid delving further into the legality of Kosovo’s de facto independent statehood, the EU could facilitate and mediate talks between the two sides that would lead to a comprehensive settlement of all remaining issues. A discussion and vote on the draft resolution as it stands right now is unlikely to achieve this.

If the resolution is defeated, Serbia’s government will be in a weaker position in negotiations that are necessary for both sides; if the resolution is carried, another round of legal arguments would likely delay substantive talks on how to manage and improve the situation on the ground as it exists right now.

In either case, we also have to consider the repercussions for the EU itself, which remains split on the Kosovo issue, and the broader impact on similar conflicts elsewhere.

RFE/RL: What can be expected from the session of the UN General Assembly? A kind of a compromise between Serbia and the West in a way where Serbia softens its resolution or even withdraws it? The rejection of Serbia’s resolution? The adoption of a resolution submitted by another country?

Wolff:
The dynamic at the General Assembly is always a bit unpredictable. In my view, a compromise on the wording of the resolution that focuses it on the need for further talks aimed at some sort of normalization of relations between Belgrade and Pristina would be the best possible outcome. This would concentrate minds on the future and give both sides legitimacy in talking with each other [and] avoid embarrassing climb-downs or the destabilization of governments.

RFE/RL: As the UN General Assembly session approaches, warnings from the EU to Serbia that its hopes for European integration would be dashed if it stays adamantly opposed to Kosovar independence are getting more vocal. However, given the fact that five members of the EU don’t recognize Kosovo's independence -- and the EU’s overall inability to work out an efficient foreign policy -- is it possible for Brussels to cobble together a workable strategy regarding the Kosovo issue?

Wolff:
The EU has so far managed its internal split reasonably well. The disagreements that exist are primarily driven by domestic concerns of countries afraid that recognizing Kosovo’s independence will backfire and embolden secessionist movements within their own borders. But even these countries could eventually recognize Kosovo if Belgrade would no longer contest Kosovo’s secession.

In this sense, all 27 EU member states have a common aim: Belgrade need not necessarily recognize Pristina but the two sides need to work out a modus vivendi. The important thing here is the process of getting there as much as the end result, and the EU can play a significant role in both, not least because further European integration -- and finally EU membership -- remain the best guarantees of peace and stability in the Balkans.

RFE/RL: Do you think the EU could put pressure on Serbia to exact its concession, or would the EU really block Serbia’s entry if it doesn’t change its mind over the Kosovo issue?

Wolff:
Without resolving the relationship between Belgrade and Pristina, neither Serbia nor Kosovo will be able to get closer to the EU. However, all three parties to that -- Brussels, Belgrade, and Pristina -- have a common interest in the European integration of the entire Balkans region and hence in resolving this issue. The trick to achieve this will be patience.

The issues that need to be settled are complex at many levels -- locally, regionally, and internationally -- and the process to get to a resolution will require leadership, diplomacy, and a flexible and innovative approach to how to structure future relations between Belgrade and Pristina and between them and the EU in such a way that all sides can save face while recognizing the reality on the ground.

RFE/RL: Although Serbia declares membership in the EU as its top foreign policy priority, there is no doubt that if it’s forced to choose -- the EU or recognition of Kosovo independence -- Serbia would disavow its European prospects. It appears the EU is underestimating it.

Wolff:
This is probably true, so it will be important to move carefully and avoid this kind of forced choice. Even though the situation is very complex, if the parties negotiate in good faith, are willing to make compromises and remain focused on their European future, a settlement will be possible.

RFE/RL: Kosovar institutions, with the support of the United States, have launched a diplomatic initiative aimed at securing further recognitions of Kosovo's independence. But no other countries have announced their recognition of Kosovo following the favorable advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice in July. Do you expect that some countries may recognize Kosovo on the eve of the General Assembly or following its outcome?

Wolff:
Personally, I think that more recognitions are inevitable, but I am not sure that this will be most helpful in the current situation, nor is it useful to obsess with the recognition issue. How much, for example, does it matter whether Somalia -- a country with no functioning government for almost two decades -- recognizes Kosovo? This will not have any material consequence at the moment.

What is far more important is how quickly Belgrade and Pristina can get down to the business of sorting out their relationship and how quickly they make substantive progressive in talks that will generate enough positive momentum to tackle even the most thorny issues on the way toward a comprehensive settlement. Once this has been accomplished, the issue of recognitions will be far less divisive and less useful to exercise pressure on one side or another.

RFE/RL: Could Kosovo pass the threshold for becoming a member of the UN? Or will Russia and China, as the veto-wielding members of the Security Council, continue blocking Kosovo's entrance to the world organization?

Wolff:
In the foreseeable future, I don’t think that Kosovo will muster the necessary support in the General Assembly or the Security Council for UN membership. Important as such membership may be, the best way to achieve it is by settling the issues on the ground in such a way that Belgrade could find a way to drop its opposition to Kosovo’s UN membership.

RFE/RL: How can we find the way out from the current stalemate? Serbia insists that under no circumstances would it recognize Kosovo's independence. Kosovo, on the other hand, claims it can negotiate with Serbia only on technical issues. Do you think it is realistic to seek a solution in terms of autonomy for the north of Kosovo, emulating for example the model of South Tyrol, or the partitioning of Kosovo, or the swap of territory, i.e. northern Kosovo in exchange for the Presevo Valley in southern Serbia, as some pundits suggest, including the latest report of the International Crisis Group. Although the international community, as well as Pristina and Belgrade, are adamantly opposed to these ideas.

Wolff:
There are two different issues here, albeit closely connected ones: the issue of Serbia’s recognition of Kosovo as an independent state and the status of the northern Mitrovica region in Kosovo.

The first point is that a normalization of relations between Kosovo and Serbia does not require the former’s recognition by the latter. West Germany never recognized East Germany but over time -- after more than two decades, to be precise -- the two found a formula of words that enabled them to have "official" relations, "permanent representatives" in each other’s capital, and both be members of the UN, regardless of the fact that the West German foreign minister at every UN General Assembly ritualistically noted that his country sought to overcome the division of Germany.

The second point is about status and borders. The key issue here is that whatever is negotiated emerges as a genuine compromise between the two sides, one that they are willing to implement and operate in good faith. I am personally not a great fan of partitions, population exchanges, swaps of territory, etc., mostly because they have something medieval about them and have historically a track record of causing immense human suffering, even if they eventually lead to some sort of stability.

Having said that, the world has moved on from the population exchanges and expulsions after the Balkan wars and the First and Second World Wars, and maybe if both sides agree and if there is full support from the international community and within the region, this “solution” should not be taken off the table even before the sides have an opportunity to consider it.

Personally, I would prefer a model that does not open up an inevitable Pandora’s box of further boundary changes and forced migrations across the region and elsewhere. There are some very good examples of autonomy and power-sharing arrangements that could serve as examples for a settlement, including South Tyrol, Northern Ireland, and the Åland Islands, to name but three of the more obvious ones.

The key, however, is that whatever settlement is achieved must have the support from both sides and the backing of the international community. Anything imposed from the outside is unlikely to achieve sustainable peace and stability.

RFE/RL: Many in Serbia now feel that Kosovo is lost to Serbia, but seek a kind of a concession. For the authorities in Belgrade, at least, an honorable exit strategy is badly needed. There is a theory circulating that if Kosovo is definitely lost to Serbia without any concessions, then Serbia would embark on a long-term strategy of undermining Bosnia by supporting the secessionist aspirations of Republika Srpska, which would eventually secede from Bosnia and join Serbia. Is this scenario realistic?

Wolff:
I am not sure how realistic a scenario this is. Much will depend on the Serbian government and its willingness to embark on such a course of action and the public pressure it may face to do so. It is definitely not something that would be desirable for the region as a whole. In the same way that a swap of territories or a partition of Kosovo might trigger more pressure for a comprehensive redrawing of boundaries across the Balkans, Belgrade’s support for Republika Srpska’s secession from Bosnia and Herzegovina, too, would not be the end of it.

Croats in Bosnia, Albanians in Macedonia, Serbs in Kosovo may not all share the view that international borders are sacrosanct and that their grievances -- real or imagined -- can be addressed effectively within the states in which they live and/or within the framework of European integration.

RFE/RL: Almost all ethnic conflicts worldwide look like a zero-sum game. Is it possible to find and implement a creative approach which would provide for a “win-win” solution?

Wolff:
There are many examples of such win-win settlements. They normally involve various forms of self-governance and power sharing, respect for human and minority rights, fair distribution of national wealth, and the recognition of distinct identities as equal. Institutions that can provide all of this are not difficult to create. What is more difficult is to find the local leaders and international diplomats willing to do so.

In the case of Kosovo and Serbia, and the Balkans more generally, I am quite hopeful that a win-win solution is possible, not least because there is a clear European perspective here. But it will take time for a sustainable solution to be achieved and we must not have unrealistic expectations about the speed with which it can be brought about.

Sometimes, it simply takes a while before people on all sides realize that there is no good war and no bad peace.
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by: Bekim from: Kosova
September 05, 2010 14:23
"Sometimes, it simply takes a while before people on all sides realize that there is no good war and no bad peace. "

Actually there is and that is peace with Serbia. They brought rapists and mass-murderers here in Kosova and any claim they had is forfeit. However, while Germany's Nazi policies of WWII where shown their error filled ways by firebombing the crap out of it, Serbia got out of its murderous rampage unscathed. And if one really wants peace in Kosova just like in Croatia you need a Storm.
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by: ms from: USA
September 06, 2010 16:12
I can't believe as a U.S. taxpayer that I need to fund these thugs in Kosovo. The sooner we cut them off the better as it is a complete waste of money. All I can say is good riddance.
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by: NYC Kosovar from: NYC
September 06, 2010 19:33
ms, you should do us a favor and explain that you are a Serb living in the states and spend all day long hating the USA where you live in.

I am also US Taxpayer and I say that US is spending money wisely on Kosovo.
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by: Blerim from: Kosova
September 06, 2010 21:56
Ahaha this is epic. You should be happy if your tax money reach Kosova. But unfortunately, it doesnt, It goes to some overweight, mcdonalds munching leech that lives off your money in USA who doesnt care if you believe it or not.

by: No Kosovo from: Italy
September 05, 2010 17:00
Ehi you

kossovar

you speak about bandit and rapists and mass-murderers ?!?!?

You that leav in a pseudo state in which bandit of UCK are now you administration ?

You that are fron Kosovo , which evey body in Eu know as tha hone of worst trafficant of woman ?

Please , Kosovar , shame for what you are and for what your pseudo country rapresent
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by: Proud Kosovar from: Prishtina
September 06, 2010 12:57
How can a Italian coming from the current state of Mafia and former fascism one, tell to anybody shame on you.
Who cares for the Europe that you promote my friend.

Only one fact is sure is that you will pay mafia every time a garbage truck comes to collect your garbage. Maybe you should throw in that truck your ideas on Kosovo as well.
A very proud Kosovar!
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by: No Kosovo from: Italy
September 06, 2010 22:28
Yes, you're right .... Italy is country of Mafia

and is for this our experience
that we know very well what kind of people are
Kosovar mafious

And don't forget also that Italians are not only Mafious
they are also among more big contingent of soldiers that are in Kosovo in KFOR

Also this is a very good way
for know very well who are Kosovars
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by: Blerim from: Kosova
September 06, 2010 22:04
You Sir, need Education.

If you were educated, you could express your jealousy in a more appropriate manner, but unfortunately, coming from Italy, you are probably a crack addict and today, your fix was late.

The day I feel shame from an Italian, will be my last.
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by: NO kosovo from: Italy
September 11, 2010 14:03
ahahahaah

don't worry

Kosovar dont have shame for nothing !

We know very well that
they are a people without moral

For them only one thing is important , MONEY

by: Dr Mlad from: Belgrade
September 05, 2010 18:30
"Croats in Bosnia, Albanians in Macedonia, Serbs in Kosovo may not all share the view that international borders are sacrosanct ...".

So, international borders are sacrosanct. All of them or this rule is valid for everybody else except for Serbia...?

by: Peggy from: Australia
September 06, 2010 03:11
Shifting borders on ethnic lines is what the west started. Yugoslavia was the only true multi ethnic country. If that couldn't work then a smaller version of Yugoslavia, Bosnia certainly can't and Kosovo doesn't even pretent to be multi ethnic. When you have 95% pure Albanian population in a country that is not multi ethnic.
So who actually got murdered and ethnically clansed from Kosovo then? Certianly not the Albanians therefore they don't have any moral right to preach to anyone.
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by: Blerim from: Pristina
September 06, 2010 22:29
Are you daft or what! Yes, we are pure 95% ethnic albanians and prrroud of it.
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by: Aibek
September 07, 2010 06:06
Peggy, this is the point which seems to be missed, that in practice the EU is getting rid of multi-ethnic states. Is creating single-ethnicity states the true form of ethnic cleansing?
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by: No Kosovo from: Italy
September 11, 2010 14:12
Yes , this the Drama

EU , NATO , ONU , USA

they deny ethnic tolerance

facilitating the creation of ethnic states

but

where is good for them !

Osethia , Abkazia , Transnistria , Nagorno carabak .....

all they are the facto idipendent since 20 years

but ......

they chose the wrong friend ,

they chose as friend Rusia and not NATO/USA !

So .... they wait , other have

by: Darren from: Canada
September 06, 2010 05:14
Some European states made a mistake at the end of WWI by forming the artificial state of Yugoslavia, and forcing into it Croats. Slovenians, Macedonians, Bosniacs, Montenegrins, Kosovars, without asking any of them if they wanted to join. It turns out that all of the above peoples want to get out of their association with Serbia. Why? Perhaps one gets a whiff of the reasons from what happened at Srebrenica and from the attemped genocides in Croatia and Kosovo. Hence, It was a big mistake that Europe tries to redress now. There is no bad precedent that would result from it. The only precedent is that you cannot try to exterminate a population and still maintain the right to govern them. This is a good precedent.
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by: Andrew from: Auckland
September 06, 2010 07:32
Ahem, actually the formation of Yugoslavia was Woodrow Wilsons fault, he was President of the US
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by: Alisa from: Canada
September 08, 2010 11:56
you are funny guy andrew :)))
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by: Anonymous from: US
September 06, 2010 18:19
Seriously? The Croats and Slovenians asked to join Yugoslavia. Their political representatives knew that if it weren't for Yugoslavia, they would lose massive (if not all) their territory to Austria, Hungary, or Italy. Zadar, Rijeka, Dubrovnik, Split, etc. would be Italian today if it weren't Yugoslavia. Bosniacs are just Serbs and Croat who converted to Islam. They are no more an ethnic group than Mormons in Utah and that does not entitle them to a state. Historically they called themselves "Muslims" because that was their identity - religious but not national. Macedonian identity was largely forged by Yugoslav communists, before that they would have been considered Bulgarians. And Montenegrins have historically considered themselves Serbs and also voluntarily made a union with Serbia. Look up their biographies: Arkan, Karadzic, Milosevic, etc. all have Montenegrin origins. Kosovars don't even exist, they're just Albanians, many of whom immigrated into the area during Enver Hoxha's rule.

You ought to be ashamed for lying like this. The only extermination campaign was by Croat and Muslim fascists against Serbs in WWII. The attempt to exterminate a whole nation using Jasenovac, Jadovno, and other facilities to do it.

Srebrenica? Two words: Naser Oric and his thugs who waged terror on Serbs for 3 years around Srebrenica. Revenge is wrong, but it was revenge, and it wasn't genocide.

Serbia's mistake was not taking her just deserts (Bosnia, Krajina, Vojvodina) and letting the Croats and Slovenes rot under Italian/Austrian/Hungarian rule. That was the only mistake in this whole fiasco.
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by: Abdulmajid
September 07, 2010 15:58
Your obtuse parroting Radovan Karadzic war propaganda will not get the Serbs nowhere. Even the people in teh Serbian government have realized that. Montenegro and Croatia have realized it a long time ago and have pledged to leave Bosnia alone. Only the evil stupid genocidal serborthodox christofascist hecklers have not, and continue to disgust us with their anti-Bosniak and anti-Muslim diatribe. Contrary to what you say, the Bosniaks have a distinct national and genetical identity, no matter if they share a language and many cultural traits with their neighbors. That does not give Serbs or Croats any right to dispossess and to exterminate the Bosniaks. I see from your side the same hate and contempt the Christian Spanish had for the Spanish Muslims in the 16th century, when first they forced them to become Christians and then dispossessed, robbed, exterminated and expelled them! The Serbs (and to a lesser extent, and only after Lord Owen told them to, and with Serb assistance, also the Croats) tried to exterminate the Bosniaks too! In the same way and for teh same reasons: to appropriate their land. I find this attitude execrable, like any act of xenophobia! I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who share such xenophobic ideas, and I do not particularly care for their lives or well being. Serbs and Croats have FAILED miserably at trying to exterminate the Bosniaks and partition Bosnia between them, Croatia proper and Montenegro have given up any such ideas, and try to get on friendly terms with Bosnia. Which is as it should be. Bosnia never was and never will be Serb. And if any Bosnian Serbs or Croats don't like living with Muslims, then they are free to leave. Because Bosnia is Bosnia, and not Serbia or Croatia! And Bosniaks are Bosniaks! No matter what their ancestors may have been! Get this, the Cross will NOT chase the Crescent out of Bosnia like it did in Spain. And if the Bosnian Serbs persist in their obtuse ways then the worse for them. But they will NEVER AGAIN bring the Bosniaks to tjheir knees, and if they try then may this accursed nation PERISH! For they will then be paid back for all the evil they did in 1992-95, and 1941-45! Do not think the Bosniaks will be as easy prey for you as back in 1992! And if there is anything I can contribute to that end, no matter at what cost to myself or my family I will gladly do it! because your obtuse genocidal murderous attitude and your crimes have given me a real swell opinion about Serbs! And the best thing is it has gotten you NOWHERE! So why not give it up and leave the Bosniaks IN PEACE?!
And what a stinking coward you are that you sign with "anonymous"! You disgust me! Were you my father, my brother or my son I would disown you and spit in your face!
You Christians always blab about how tolerant and peaceful you are, and indeed your doctrine says "love thy neighbor". But all the non-Christains have seen from you along history is only cruelty, violence, barbarity and hate! You are such sniveling hypocrites!
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by: No Kosovo from: Italy
September 11, 2010 15:00
And where is difference betwen Serbs and Croatian ?

Only difference was :

that croatian was under austria domination for 300 century (1601/1919)
after wich become part of "confederation of serbs /croatian and sloven"
(so : de facto , never exist croatia like an indipendent state
before Jugoslavian dissolution !)

and that serbs was under turks domination .

Only for this there are difference of religion and character in language among serbs and croatian ,

Crotian are more cattolic and uses latin character ,
since Austria empire was cattolic and using latin character

serbs more ortodox and use cyrillics character ,
becouse this was a form of identity against muslim dominant

(for precison . we must says that first form of Serbia as idipendent state was since 1190 !)

Before years 1990
nobody heard about a "croatian language"

simply they speak the same dialects of serbs and bosniac (Shtokavian dialect)
only in different characters

and the name of this language was for all ,
in serbia and in croatia
"srpskohrvatski" = serbs/croatian !


But now ...... now under etnic nationalism

all are sure that exist in the history a croatian people

different from serbs people

and also with a different language !


The same for Bosnia , now exist bosniac language ,

also if nobody never herd about it before !
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by: Mitch from: Sydney
September 07, 2010 00:00
Well Darren, if you had done your homework you would have realised that Dalmatia and Slavonia in fact threatened to tear away from Croatia if they waited longer in joining Yugoslavia. The problems happend after WW2 when Serbians were brutally forced to live in redrawn communist borders to reflect a brotherhood and unity theme. These communist republican borders should have been made null and void and the only solution to the Balkans could have been simple. Serbs should be allowed their right to live with their kin as should Croats and Bosnians. In cases where their are islands of ethnic people a land swap should have occured. These current borders will only lead to Deja Vu. Bosnia Croatia and Serbia can never be stable until they each redraw their borders to reflect their own ethnic composition.
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by: No Kosovo from: Italy
September 11, 2010 15:22
Dalmazia was italian since Republic of Venice !

It was full of Italians but they were expelled after second WW
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by: Anonymous
September 07, 2010 01:12
Placing blame for the conflict on one side is not only incorrect, it is dangerously destabilizing. The borderlands of Croatia had majority populations of Serbs since the 16th century (that is before Canada ever existed) that were threatened in the seceding states. What happened is that they were completely ethnically cleansed by the Croats.

Your post is amusing because it sounds like Yugoslavia was intended to be a Serb empire, or at least a Serb-dominated entity. That could not be further from the truth! Serbia was tacked into this entity to thwart Russian influence in the Balkans, and Serbs were demonized in the Western media during the 90s for the very same reason. (Same reason west supported the Greek junta, and the Western dhimmitude towards the Turks and Arabs - especially over Constantinople).
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by: BS Buster
September 07, 2010 02:40
If given a choice, Croats and Serbs in Bosnia would like to see that Muslim plurality of a state partitioned.

Croatia and Slovenia have had issues with each other and the Albanians don't have the greatest of reputations among many Greeks and Slavic Macedonians.

Serbia has had good relations with Greece, Russia and Romania. Hungary isn't as critical of the treatment of ethnic Hungarians in Serbia when compared to the situations in Slovakia and Romania.

So much for the erroneous anti-Serb propaganda.

by: Sami from: Pristina
September 06, 2010 22:18
Kosova is a Sovereign State and 'We Dont Care' what anybody says.
Serbia can shout and scream but WE DONT CARE what they think or do.
This is our land, it was ours forever, before the serbs came, befor the turks came, before the romans came, WE WERE HERE Dem Baba Dem.

Tell them boys.
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by: Anonymous
September 11, 2010 15:29
Yes !

Also Serbians Speak

"serbia is a Sovereign State and 'We Dont Care' what anybody says"

But dont was sufficient !

by: Wim Roffel from: Netherlands
September 07, 2010 10:01
Croatia cleansed 400,000 Serbs and the EU doesn't bother to mention it in its negotiations with Croatia.

Kosovo has cleansed over 200,000 Roma and Serbs and is heavily discriminating the remaining ones and the only thing the EU asks for is talks about "normalization" where these subjects - that should be in front - are de facto a taboo.

Mr Wolff is not speaking the truth when he says that he is not a great fan of population exchanges. By throwing up obstacles for border changes he makes makes one-sided "population exchanges" inevitable - just as happened in Croatia. The proof: due to discrimination and harassment the young minorities south of the Ibar are leaving en masse and their communities are generally expected to die out in a few decades. That is what awaits Kosovo's north tip too if Pristina ever gets its say there.
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by: olivera from: ayia napa
September 07, 2010 10:55
Mr Roffel
You are absolutely right.
My father is from Croatia and he is a "Serb", but my fathers family is since 200 years in Croatia, became the land from the King, in this time. Now we are like foreigner. There will be always a problem on balkan, because the people, they do not forget easely.....
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by: Kosovar from: Kosova
September 08, 2010 15:17
Dutch forces have helped Serbs on Srebrenica Genocide.

What is your comment on that fact?.

Leave Kosovo issue alone until you don't figure up basic facts on the population of Kosovo.


by: Danny from: USA
September 07, 2010 23:04
Do any of you people really think that this is over?
The albanians invaded and momenterally poses Kosovo.
I suggest to the albanians to keep their passports close by
because this is not over by any means. In the near future
they will all be leaving Kosovo for Michigan. Mark my words
people. In the next 10 years there is going to be alot of changes.
There is going to be lot of changes.
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by: Kosovar from: Kosova
September 08, 2010 19:28
Danny,

Why Michigan Danny, don't you read that Detroit is in distress. GM, Ford and Crysler are down sizing. Maybe some people from Michigan can come to live in Kosovo and teach Kosovar's professional English.

As for the Passports don't worry. Serbia does not have the army to threat Kosovo anymore so i guess that we will enjoy in our Country.
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by: Abdulmajid
September 08, 2010 23:58
What are you talking about?
So far as I know Milosevic is not returning from the grave.
But I do hope teh Serbs try again to destroy Kosovars and Bosniaks and I hope this time they will get the thrashing of a lifetime, which will make the bombing they were subject to in 1998 seem liek a caress from a loving girl in compüarison. And that this time NATO forces, and Kosovars, and Bosniaks march into Belgrade, that a military admisitration is established there and a war crimes court withthe poweer to HANG war criminals, liek tehy did in Germany and Japan in 1945, and only after 10, no 20, better 30 years will they restore sovereignty over Serbia (because a lot of your people, like yourself, are soo incredibly obtuse and soo proud of what you did to Bosniaks and Kosovars! )
Before you started withhat I did not hate yasou, but since I have learned that you have been trying to expel and destroy the Bosniaks and Kosovars since 1804, that you justify yourselves with wrongs of teh past for which today's peopel can't be made responsible, that you refuse to admit your responsibility for war crimes, or if an alibi handful of them was tried, or Boris Tadic presents a vapid, vague apology for Srebrenica you think you have rehabilitated yourselves, while continuing to dream of Greater Serbia and seeking teh ghettoization, dexpulsion or extermination of Bosniaks! Then I do not care for you lot nor for your lives orr well being very much. Of course I do know that there are very decent Serbs around like Sonja Biserko, Cedomir Jovanovic or Nenad Canak, but it is not written on their foreheads.
Try to erase Bosnia of teh map, or to reconquer Kosovo and your nation will perish. Mark my words. It will cease to be a danger to its neighbors.

by: Ron
September 09, 2010 18:48
To all pro-independent:

Why Kosovo can become independent while Tibet must stay in China?
Why the double standards?
Why we bomb Serbia but trade with China?

Rememer that millions (!) died in Tibet...
In Response

by: Abdulmajid
September 10, 2010 15:31
Yes, why should Tibet and East Turkestan stay under Chinese oppression and misrule, especially the destruction of their authochthonous culture? were this not the case, would the Chinese just let those people live according to their own traditions and religion this would surely be no problem, but here the Chinese authorities are as evil, obtuse and pigheaded as Milosevic was.
In Response

by: Proud Kosovar from: Prishtina
September 10, 2010 17:41
Ron,

Tibet story is very sad and Kosovars cherish sypmaties for the Tibet Cause but having said that we must add that Kosovars have fought for their independece strugle without having in mind Tibet or other regions.

We fought same like US or other indepedent countries fought for their independence.

You should not stop at Kosovo but you should ask wy 192 UN members are independent and Tibet is not. Maybe if you read ICJ ruling on Kosovo indepedence you will understand.

Best answer from me that Kosovo is indepedent due to geo/historical circumstances.

And finally If you are against Kosovo Independence, Kosovars cannot care less.
Cheers

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