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Serbia And Kosovo To Cooperate On Border

Ethnic Serbs stand in front of a barricade in the divided town of Mitrovica, in northern Kosovo.
Ethnic Serbs stand in front of a barricade in the divided town of Mitrovica, in northern Kosovo.
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Serbia and Kosovo have agreed to work together to patrol their common border.

The two sides reached the agreement in Brussels late on December 2.

"The parties will gradually set up the joint, integrated, single and secure posts at all  their common crossing points," a statement from the EU, which mediated the discussions, said.

The breakthrough came hours after German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Serbia was not ready for EU membership.

Speaking to parliament, Merkel said Serbia could only join the EU "through the normalization of its relations with Kosovo," and that "Serbia has so far not lived up to these expectations sufficiently."

Unrest between NATO troops and ethnic Serbs in northern Kosovo near the border with Serbia has flared up in recent weeks.

Thirty German and Austrian soldiers have been hurt in clashes in northern Kosovo over the past week.

Trouble began in July when Serbs erected dozens of roadblocks after the government of Kosovo said it would man border posts in the mainly Serb north.

Many Serbs who live there reject Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence from Serbia.

compiled from agency reports
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by: Anonymous
December 03, 2011 02:08
All Serbs reject Pristina's authority because they are terrorists.
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by: Frank
December 03, 2011 15:58
"All Serbs reject Pristina's authority because they are terrorists."

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So says the pro-Albanian nationalist side with their vile terrorism and other criminal attributes.

While recognizing Kosovo as a continued part of Serbia, UNSCR 1244 specfically calls for a limited return of Serb military and police to that province.

by: Brazilian Man from: São Paulo - SP - Brazil
December 03, 2011 06:35
The interesting stuff is that Serbia currently says “it will never ever recognize Kosovo”… but negotiates with it in Brussels…
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 04, 2011 12:44
Serbia is negotiating under NATO auspices in Brussels because of its citizens, who, by the way are called the Serbs. The most qurious "stuff" is the role of KFOR army forces which have the Serbs at gunpoint in their own, and therefore, my own country. The NATO role, so far, and to a great success, has been to militarize the Albanians, while disregarding the UN resolution 1244, as stated in the message above. If anyone is playing the game of absurdities it is the foreign troops present in Serbia openly taking the Albanian side.
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by: Darko from: Rijecka Crnojevica
December 04, 2011 21:47
Sounds like patheic whining from the losing Serbs. When faced against real opposition, as opposed to innocent women and children, the so called Serbian army (read: untrained thugs and criminals) fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

Inat that!
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by: Frank
December 04, 2011 23:54
Darko, you come acrooss as one of those nationalist anti-Serb chumps with your own element of thugs.

BTW, the Albanians and Croats never beat the Serbs without massive Western support
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 05, 2011 06:37
To: Darko

Dark is your mind. The proper name of the Montenegrian town is Rijeka Crnojevica. Hope the waters of the lake bordering on Albania are more clear.
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by: Darko
December 05, 2011 17:31
Frank,

Resorting to name calling: "chump", really? Your Serbness is showing.

I'm sure you are very brave sitting there at your computer...
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by: Brazilian Man from: São Paulo - SP - Brazil
December 09, 2011 00:26
There is no place of the UN 1244 Resolution that states that Kosovo is a undetachable part of Serbia; in fact, the text just mentions Kosovo as a part of the (now defunct) Yugoslavia.
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 09, 2011 12:03
To: The Brazilian Man

Unfortunately, the un resolution 1244 is still in place.

Now the boring matter, i.e., facts for the obviously malicious individuals: The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia consisted of 6 republics: Serbia (used to be a Kingdom), Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, and Macedonia. Serbia, as the largest Rebublic, consisted - then and now - out of three parts: the Autonomous Province of Kosovo, the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina, and the Serbia proper.

It seems you will have to find some other ways for rumping Serbia.
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by: Frank
December 09, 2011 13:32
Brazilian Man spouts his usual inaccurate anti-Serb information.

Serbia is considered the legal successor state of the FR of Yugoslavia which signed onto UNSCR 1244. Kosovo was part of Serbia in Yugoslav and pre-Yugoslav times, while never having been an independent entity unto itself. UNSCR 1244 recognizes Kosovo as a continued part of Serbia, while specifying a limited return of Serb milirary and police personnel.
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 10, 2011 06:29
To: Frank and Brazilian Man

Baffling us with sine prole issues, from his supreme, self-propelled, special position of lettting us know to what degree he has crossbred and identified the Yugoslav Army with the state of Serbia, perhaps Brazilian Man would be kind enough as to spout some facts on the content of ships to croatia and slovenia in the 90's, which had been undetachable from the coffee beans. Surely, Brazilian Man would know a thing or two on the subject. I believe the united nations conventions would use the terms such as Terrorist Activities...
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by: Brazilian Man from: São Paulo - SP - Brazil
December 11, 2011 00:55
Let’s see it: http://www.nato.int/kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm

Well, there is no place in the resolution that says that Kosovo is part of Serbia…

Anyway, in the early 90s Milosevic’s Yugoslav state was explelled from the UN and just returned to it after Milosevic’s fall in 2000.

And Kosovo was not part of Serbia, even at a provincial level when both were part of the Ottoman Empire, from the Middle Ages until 1913, when the Serbian Kingdom grabbed the area from Constantinople’s control in the Second Balkan War.
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 11, 2011 11:16
Jesus Christ! Can we go back to the 15th century and on account of that history start arguing that Sao Paulo is no part of Brazil. Please go Rio de Janeiro and give my regards to the statue of Jesus.
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by: Frank
December 11, 2011 14:39
Brazilian Man once again reveals his disingenuous side.

UNSCR 1244 specifies that Kosovo a continued part of the FRY.

In Yugoslav and pre-Yugolsav times, Kosovo was a part of Serbia, while not having been an independent entity unto itself.

Serbia is considered the legal successor state to that entity.

Consider how the Washington Bullets were renamed the Washington Wizards.

UNSCR 1244 specifically calls for a limited return of Serb military and police personnel to Kosovo.

Once again noting (seeing what Brazilian Man overlooks):

UNSCR 1244 specifies Kosovo a continued part of the FRY.

Serbia is considered the legal successor state to that entity.

In Yugoslav and pre-Yugolsav times, Kosovo was a part of Serbia, while not having been an independent entity unto itself.
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 12, 2011 07:08
To: Frank

Readily admit to not being familiar with the US Baseball, American Football, and other sports arena situation.

As for the un resolution 1244 I would just like to contribute to the hard-trying-to-clarify Frank's point of Kosovo being an inalienable part of Serbia, with all the alarm signs already on, that perhaps the more important point in the resoultion, which stands in continual violation, is that the resolution specifically, more than once calls for the UCK's disarmament : "... the Kosovo Albanian groups end immediately all offensive actions & comply with the requirements for demilitarization." So far, the process has been quite the opposite, while the united nations' "peaceful mission" in Belgrade is amassing armament and is always in need for storage space. The "come kitty, kitty" call should mean what for the ever "dumb Serbs"?
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by: Frank
December 04, 2011 12:57
That point gives further credence to the view that Serbia's government has Quisling/Vichy attributes:

The number of politically slanted Western NGOs in Serbia is tremendous.

Neocons and neolibs bellyache about the state of media in Ukraine and Russia.

If anything, it appears that the media situation in Serbia is more heavy-handed from a NWO neocon-neolib leaning line.
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 04, 2011 18:08
It's such rubbish, isn't it?

by: Darren from: Canada
December 08, 2011 23:59
I am delighted by the news that the Serb government has finally decided to recognize the Republic of Kosova! The President Thaci has declared that the recent border accord amounts to a de jure recognition of the Republic of Kosova by Serbia! Thank you, Mr. Tadic! You are the living proof that not all Serbs are brutes like Milosevic, Mladic or Karadzic! As a neutral Canadian, I am now urging the Kosova Serbs to become proud, law-abiding citizens of the Republic of Kosova! Brother Kosova Serbs, a bright future awaits you! The reason is the following: It will take hundreds of years for the Civilized World to forget or forgive the massacres at Srebenica, Sarajevo, Vucovar, Kosova, etc. But as citizens of Kosova, you may claim you are Albanians, thus escaping the justified opprobrium of the Western, Civilized World! Of course, you and your children will have to learn Albanian A. S. A. P. As a result, you will benefit from the respect and admiration all Western people have for Albanians!

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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 09, 2011 11:16
A poor, daring Canadian. Just as backward as the timing zone in the Americas. To your regret, the Serbian Province of Kosovo is still DE IURE Serbian. So say all the bids by Eulex for Kosovo needs in heavy vehicles, trucks, vehicle reserve parts, etc., going by way of Turkey, Italy... Still need to have the name of the Republic of Serbia on all papers.
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by: Frank
December 09, 2011 13:28
As was recently stated elsewhere, by a source in conflict with the inaccurate anti-Serb propaganda:

Without meaning to excuse the Vichy/Quisling like manner that has been attributed to the Serb government: in the US, some states have been known to periodically be at odds with each over jurisdiction and other matters.

Read from top to bottom and putting aside the new world order, neocon-neolib influenced diplomatic spin, UNSCR 1244 speaks of a changed relationship of Kosovo within Serbia.

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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 10, 2011 14:00
Thank you very much for the crystal clear point that the UNSCR 1244 speaks of a changed political structure of Kosovo WITHIN Serbia.

Now, all there is left to do is to discern where have all the UN offices, Eulexes, NATO troops, KAFOR troops, not to mention all the NGOs, come from, and why?

Does the host state of Serbia have any say in its own home? And are the shouting Kosovo-Albanians going to overtake the whole Europe, going the way they are?

The above mentioned foreign structures themselves have done nothing to abide by the UNSCR 1244 Articles. Instead, they have managed to raise revulsion among the Serbs, and for their own mess are blaming the Serbs again.
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by: Enrique from: mexico city
December 09, 2011 17:41
As a world wide traveler and historian must say that is really disapoiting to see how some people dont thinkin at all. You cannot blame one nation for everything that happend mr. Darren there is always to sides. Probably ur some kind neutral albanian "canadian" who doesnt have a clue what happend over there. Somethimes is better to keep quiet! Saludos de Mexico
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by: Darren from: Canada
December 10, 2011 19:55
Sure, let’s examine the other side, Mr. “historian”. For instance, the side of the thousands of victims at Srebenica. I’ll take a crack at it, but I stand to be corrected by you. It seems to me that they were guilty of being alive. How dared they to live, who gave them the permission? What insolence! They deserve what came to them. Your turn, Mr. Historian. I hate to disappoint you, I am a proud Canadian! We gave the world titans such as Wayne Gretzky and Winnie the Pooh. Albanians don’t fare as well, but they do have a few, more modest celebrities: Mother Teresa, Scanderbeg (the savior of Europe), Robert de Niro. I found out about them reading a book of history and going to their English-speaking website. Cheers!
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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 11, 2011 11:09
To: Darren

As for the Srebrenica issue: all those questions should be posed to the insurgent, terrrorist Muslim structures in Bosnia, and especially to the UN (stationed in Belgrade and Sarajevo) who failed to provide those people with food. The CHIEF CULPRIT FOR SREBRENICA IS THE BOSNIAN MUSLIM AND FOREIGN NGO/UN FACTOR. That does not mean that the Yugoslav Army (in case of Srebrenica, with the majority of Serb troops) can be delivered from guilt. Can you please stop mixing up Serbia and the Serbs with the rest of former Yugoslavia.

by: Darren from: Canada
December 13, 2011 03:40
I cannot make any sense out of the following post by vn from Belgrade:

“To: Darren

As for the Srebrenica issue: all those questions should be posed to the insurgent, terrrorist Muslim structures in Bosnia, and especially to the UN (stationed in Belgrade and Sarajevo) who failed to provide those people with food. The CHIEF CULPRIT FOR SREBRENICA IS THE BOSNIAN MUSLIM AND FOREIGN NGO/UN FACTOR. That does not mean that the Yugoslav Army (in case of Srebrenica, with the majority of Serb troops) can be delivered from guilt. Can you please stop mixing up Serbia and the Serbs with the rest of former Yugoslavia.”

Bosnia & Herzegovina used their legal right to secede provided in the Constitution of Yugoslavia. Hence, the terrorist insurgents were the Serbs who tried to prevent it. They were the outlaws.

“Muslim structures”? Most of the Bosniacs are Muslim, but you imply this is reprehensible. No wonder they wanted to secede from you.

“UN (stationed in Belgrade and Sarajevo) who failed to provide those people with food.” You guys slaughtered thousands of defenseless, innocent people, in order to prevent them from dying of starvation?

Are you representative of the Serbs in Serbia? If so, I don’t think you should be admitted in the EU. Human beings don’t do what you did in Srebenica, Sarajevo, Vucovar and Kosova. Animals don’t do it either. So perhaps you are a totally different species. Perhaps SETI should be made aware of you.

I intend to copy this post on a Bosnia-related thread, where there may be other people who would like to comment.

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by: vn from: Belgrade
December 19, 2011 12:41
To: Darren

Sorry for being this late in replying to your kind comment. Also, thank you for informing the Bosnia related thread.

Bosnia and Herzegovina was one of the republics of former Yugoslavia. According to the latest poll before the war in Bosnia, the population in Bosnia consisted of the Muslims, Serbs, Croats, and to your surprise, of the YUGOSLAVS (about 80% of population declared themselves as Yugoslavs). The reason being that we all used to live in YUGOSLAVIA. I myself was also a Yugoslav.

The reprehensible and most appalling part in Bosnia is the Muslim terrorist insurgency, and I will stick to that.

As for the shameful UN part in former Yugoslavia, it was this infamous structure that imposed sanctions on guess whom, the Republic of Serbia. Serbia was not at war with Bosnia, but it was the Bosnians themselves who got into quarrel, with the help of the US, British, NATO, Al Qaeda, and what not parties with interest. Bosnia was the greatest stronghold of the former Yugoslav Army, holding on its territory most of armament of former Yugoslavia. And we could not have that in Europe, now that Germany got together, could we? A socialist country at that, with all the coalmines, rivers, mountains, the Adriatic Sea, heavy industry, ...

Serbia, one month after the time of Srebrenica, lived through an unseen influx of the exiled Serbs from Croatia - the number is 700,000 people. Serbia, at the time of Srebrenica, was under the UN sanctions, unable to cope with its own economic, demographic, disaster. It only wanted the other republics to come to senses and end the bloody war. At the post Srebrenica time the UN and NGO personnel, all of a sudden, started getting themselves new apartments.

As for the animals and beasts, those epithets could be attributed to the NATO scoundrels who have killed 3,000 people in Serbia in 1999, destroyed most of the infrastructure, etc. The only problem is that some Serbs, most of them Christian, about a few millions, are still alive.

Yes, I live in Serbia. And I was not at war with Bosnia. Srebrenica is in Bosnia, so would you please go to Sarajevo and ask them questions about Srebrenica, and leave Belgrade alone.

And to finish it up: about the EU, NATO, US officials, most of them should stand a court trial.

Yes, there is a God.

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