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Turkey Says Downed Jet May Have Strayed Into Syrian Airspace

Turkish President Abdullah Gul  Turkish President Abdullah Gul
Turkish President Abdullah Gul
Turkish President Abdullah Gul
Turkey's President Abdullah Gul has said that a Turkish jet shot down by Syria may have strayed into Syrian airspace.
But Gul said it is, nevertheless, not possible for Turkey to ignore the incident.
Gul made the remarks after Syria officially confirmed that it had shot down a Turkish jet on June 22. It is thought to have crashed into the Mediterranean near the sea borders of both countries.

Syrian military officials say the downed Turkish plane was flying at a low altitude and high speed just one kilometer off the Syrian coast when it was shot down. They say its flight pattern indicated it was not on a routine training mission.
Gul also was quoted by Turkey's state news agency, Anatolia, as saying that everything that needs to be done following the incident "will be done."

"We are now trying to determine exactly where the jet was shot down. After this discovery, all necessary measures will be taken," Gul said.
The office of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Ankara will decide on a course of action once all the facts are in.

The navies of Turkey and Syria sent search-and-rescue ships out on June 23 in what they said was a joint searching of the Mediterranean Sea for signs of wreckage and for the two pilots aboard the downed jet. But the Turkish ships returned to Turkey's shores in the evening with no word about the missing pilots.
'Not Fighter Plane'

Meanwhile, Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc on June 23 denied reports suggesting that the downed Turkish jet was a fighter plane.

Turkey has U.S.-built F-4 fighter jets in its air force -- an aircraft that carries two pilots. But it also has two-seater training planes that are used to take photographs of conditions on the ground.
Turkish authorities are hosting thousands of opposition fighters who are fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime, as well as some 32,000 refugees who have fled from the Syrian government's brutal 16-month crackdown on dissent.
The situation has fostered bitter hostility between the two former allies.
Turkey has called on Assad to resign. Turkey also has withdrawn its diplomatic personnel from Syria, saying their safety was in danger.

Meanwhile, fighting is continuing in northern Syria near the border with Turkey between Assad loyalists and the opposition Free Syria Army.
Signals from both sides suggest neither wants a military confrontation over the incident.
With the second-biggest military force in NATO -- and with troops hardened by nearly 30 years of fighting Kurdish rebels -- Turkey would be a formidable foe for a Syrian military already struggling to put down a popular uprising and an increasingly potent insurgency.
Based on AP, dpa, and AFP reports
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by: American Troll
June 22, 2012 23:25
"The incident is likely to further sour relations"

Must... resist... low-hanging troll bait...

by: Anonymous
June 23, 2012 01:35
God bless Turkey
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by: Alex from: LA
June 23, 2012 08:56
God bless the one who pulled the trigger!!!

by: Jack from: US
June 23, 2012 03:01
This is just a NATO-wahhabi airplane machine for killing Christians, so it probably isn't a bad thing that the airplane is no longer flying through the sky.
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
June 23, 2012 10:39
Who knows, Jack, maybe it's just yet another maneuver of the US-puppets running the govt in Ankara. Given the current situation in EGYPT, it is in the interest of the US govt to DISTRACT the attention of the public from the fact that the US-financed Egyptian junta is denying the people of Egypt the right to decide their own fate.
And what is better for the purpose of distracting this attention than provoking a major military "accident" in the Middle East? So, I would say that the whole thing is a provocation by the US and has been executed by their Ankara-based lakeys on orders directly from Washington.
At any rate, one can be sure that the govts of Russia, China and Iran are always ready to respond to any act of agression of Turkey against the Syrian Republic and SHOULD THIS ACT OF AGRESSION TAKE PLACE the response of the three above-mentioned states in support of the legitimate govt of Syria will make the govt of Turkey come back to Earth and realize the extent to which its futile hope to play ANY KIND OF ROLE in the Middle-Eastern politics is absurd and illusory.
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by: Jack from: US
June 23, 2012 16:30
whoever borrowes my name sometimes does a good job writing the truth. Just a little bit more learning to replicate the style and I can retire to just reading...
Indeed, Turkey is a NATO minion, sponsoring Wahhabi Sunni terrorist groups who kill Syrian people by hundreds, with approval and encouragement of US government. Turkey will not dare to puke without US permission. US is the major sponsor of terrorism
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by: Chris from: USA
June 23, 2012 19:12
I love that the most absurd of comments usually come from those outside the US.

If you actually knew a thing about the US, by means of crawling out of your cave every thousand years, you would know US dollars going into Eygpt, by way of our Gov't, were freezed post Mubarrak falling. So the only one financing Egypt, is well, Eygpt.
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by: William from: Aragon
June 24, 2012 00:32
Jack: I believe that it was most likely doing some intelligence gathering for the US military, as the USAFnot dare to a fly-over in the current climate. We should also assume that the Israelis are dong the same thing in southern Syria.

Eugenio: and if it happens to be knocked down, that is an added bonus as you have described.
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by: Alex from: LA
June 24, 2012 21:33
I agree with Jack and Eugenio, and would like to add:
"US is the major sponsor of terrorism," because we use it as an excuse to go to war, and make available all the product or resources of that country to our Western style markets, so the prices of those material/products drop. It's just like any other time in history, when a state is in state of civil unrest or war, the major power surround you to get the chance to take over and set up a shadow state for yourself. Just like during 1917 Russian Revolution, which gave birth to RED ARMY, because of what i described. Would of the world been better of with the WHITEs or the REDS, well we know how the RED version turned out, and its all because of UK's, US's and FRANCE's support for the whites we had communist rule for almost a century. Does anyone think that, hell no, we censor all that hurt our image.
Stay strong Syria and defend your Christian minorities from those so called rebels.

by: Kafantaris from: USA
June 23, 2012 07:55
Turkey would be wise to exercise restrain to Syria's shooting down its wondering plane. Nothing Turkey does now will help the situation at hand -- either for the Syrian people or the international community.
Retaliation has its place, and Turkey will have plenty of opportunity to assert itself. Now is not the time.

by: Pakistani offical from: islamabad
June 23, 2012 08:10
in all the Matters of turkey Government we are totally support the Government Decision of turk.
we support Turkey army Turkey Government and Turkey beloved peoples.
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by: Conan from: Cenan
June 23, 2012 10:00
Pokemon pakistanian. This Turks, are not Ottomans, this Turks were betray to Ottomans, and they forced to leave Ottoman Sultan from his own land. These are the people who are betrayers to Khalif of the İslam. Your ancestors were love Ottomans, not Turks. Be true Muslim.

- İf America orders, Turkey will attack Syria. İf America not, Turkey will not.
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by: William from: Aragon
June 24, 2012 00:43
Hello Pakistani Official,

Do not be too quick to support war - it is like a train than once it departs the station, then you might not be able to get off where you wanted to, and then nobody knows where the train is going.

by: Anonymous
June 23, 2012 11:04
If Turkey's airspace had been violated and the respective pilot had not responded to warnings, very certainly Turkey's military forces would have destroyed the plane.
In a situation of civil war, having Turkey explicitly threatening the Syrian regime, it's evident that pro-Assad Syrian forces would take no risk as regards a sign of the slightest possible manifestation of weakness at their borders.
Not very nice, but in the light of the ominous perspectives for Assad and his followers, quite understandable.
Besides, Turkey should not start a war with Syria. They possibly couldn't control Syrian and Kurdish forces.
Finally, for the Assadians it would give a green light to carry out more severe, harsh, cruel actions against all of those whom they suspect of collaborating with the "enemy forces" who want to "dethrone" Assad.
Eventually, Syria now is not Iraq where Turkey's aircraft, reconnaissance forces, fighter jets come and go as they please.
Last aspect, the Alewites surely do know about the massacres and the discrimination against Alevites in Turkey. Some of the other religious minorities clearly observe the situation in Iraq, where less and less Armenians, etc. are willing to risk their lives in Iraq out of fear of arbitrary killings.
Thus, it's clearly not justifiable, but probably this is amongst many other factors a reason why some of the Assadian forces show little mercy as they imagine that the loss of power would very probably result in more than revenge killings.
The sad thing is that "somewhere" in the Middle East people do consider religious and tribal affiliations to be the most important criterion. Peace and justice, prosperity, etc. for those who belong to your tribe or share at least some of your essential interests.
So, for the time being, not much hope for peace, unfortunately.

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
June 23, 2012 12:43
Assad long ago turned into a murderer of women and children and stood in line with the аbkhaz bandits...

By order of the Putin's Russian military gave this thug Assad air defense missile systems and Putin ordered to Assad to shoot down any aircraft.

Turkish aircraft flew accidentally and it was shot down by Russian rockets and Russian anti-aircraft gunners, j
ust lucky that no passenger aircraft because the employees of KGB as we know like to shoot down passenger planes, let us remember the South Korean Boeing .
The only way out:
a massive strikes which destroyed the Russian anti-aircraft installations in Syria..but for this US satellites should provide targeting...
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by: William from: Aragon
June 24, 2012 00:38
Once that is done, what do you believe the Russian response will be? Given that the Russian national game is chess, one should be very careful about the next move because one could find oneself in check very quickly.
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
June 24, 2012 08:09
Hey, Vakhtang, hey, William. At any rate, you see, two days have passed since the moment of the shooting and none of the usual symptoms of US/NATO preparing to do anything at all in response to this shooting are present: the Western media are kind of relaxed and prefer to focus on the Euro-Football championship and the Euro-Debt crisis and none of the NATO dignatories seems to have made any of those "strong" statements that they usually make when they have something planned (the German FM Westerwelle even "praised the restrained reaction of Turkey" :-)).
Interestingly enough, the German "Der Spiegel" quotes some Turkish official (Hasan Köni) as saying that "the F4 that was shot down over Syria was ONE OF THE OLDEST MODELS of fighter jets that the Turkish army is in posession of; its role must have probably been to test the Syrian anti-aircraft system".
Ok, Mr. Köni, the test has been a success: it looks like the Syrian anti-aircraft system works :-)). What's next :-))??

by: Anonymous
June 23, 2012 14:44
Assad has clearly crossed the line. Turkey should carry out its duty as the leader of the Middle East and bring down the Assad government as soon as possible.
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by: Anonymously Turkish...NOT from: LA
June 24, 2012 23:10
Turkey is the leader of Middle East, hahaha Turkey is not a leader of anything, including it's own nation. Turkey is the king of donkey's.
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by: Anonymous
June 25, 2012 06:16
I'm Jordanian and I can tell you that absolute majority of the Arab people look to Turkey for inspiration. It is the emerging world power and the pre-eminent leader of the Islamic world.

by: Jack from: US
June 23, 2012 16:24
"downing .. cannot be ignored".. ah yeah? Turks will only do what US government allows them to do. Israeli commandos killed several peaceful Turks other day when they boarded Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Ergodan wowed Allah will flush Israel down Gaza sewer, and what did he do? Nothing. Just empty bark

by: American from: USA
June 23, 2012 16:28
GO TURKEY!!!!!!!!
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