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Most of Karakalpakstan is overed by Central Asia’s two great deserts -- the Kara-Kum and the Kyzyl-Kum (pictured).
Most of Karakalpakstan is overed by Central Asia’s two great deserts -- the Kara-Kum and the Kyzyl-Kum (pictured).

Aman Sagidullaev and his family don’t go outdoors much these days. They have been refugees in Kyrgyzstan for more than two years, but Sagidullaev told RFE/RL’s Kyrgyz Service, known locally as Azattyk, that recently men he suspects are from Uzbekistan’s security service have arrived in the area and are seeking to forcibly take him back to Uzbekistan, where he faces serious charges.

The official charges against Sagidullaev, so far, are abuse of his position as head of an agricultural equipment manufacturer and embezzlement of some $1 million. But were he to be dragged home, he would likely also be facing charges of separatism for his role as leader of the Alga Karakalpakstan movement.

Sagidullayev’s group wants independence for Karakalpakstan and claims it is not a case of separatism but a right granted to the autonomous region in the constitution. Alga Karakalpakstan has called for a referendum to be conducted in the autonomous region on the issue of independence.

An agreement signed in 1993 kept Karakalpakstan as part of Uzbekistan for a period of 20 years, after which the autonomous region could hold a referendum on leaving Uzbekistan.

That alone would be sufficient to annoy the Uzbek government, but at the start of June, the Alga Karakalpakstan movement used social network sites to send a message urging the World Bank to withhold a $411 million loan intended for improvements in Karakalpakstan. The group said the money would only help Uzbek authorities continue infringing on the rights of minorities, particularly the Karakalpaks.

Uzbek authorities quickly issued an international warrant for Sagidullayev’s arrest on the embezzlement charges.

Karakalpakstan does not receive much attention. There is not much there. The autonomous region covers about one-third of Uzbekistan, but of the 30 million people living in Uzbekistan only 1.5 million live in Karakalpakstan.

Most of it is covered by Central Asia’s two great deserts; the Kara-Kum and Kyzyl-Kum. That is the reason Uzbekistan’s most notorious prison -- Jaslyk -- is located there.

For centuries, those who did live in the region depended on the Aral Sea, once the fourth-largest inland body of water in the world. Now the sea has almost entirely dried up on the Uzbek side of the border and what was once a source of life for the people in the Karakalpakstan region is now a source of problems. Where once there was water there is now alkaline soil. When the winds blow, they carry salt that withers crops and causes numerous health problems to people living there.

The Karakalpaks themselves are closer to the Kazakhs than to the Uzbeks. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in late 1991, several hundred thousand Karakalpaks have crossed into Kazakhstan.

But Karakalpakstan has oil and natural gas, so when people such as Sagidullaev start talking about independence from Uzbekistan, the reaction in Tashkent is predictable.

Sagidullaev told Azattyk that strangers claiming to be from law enforcement have appeared at the refugee camp where he and his family are living. These strangers have made enquiries with the camp’s administration about Sagidullaev and his children. He is sure they are from Uzbekistan’s National Security Service (SNB).

Sagidullaev has been appealing to Kyrgyz authorities and the office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees to be granted political asylum, so far without success.

But he does have a valuable local ally, Aziza Abdirasulova, the head of the Kylym Shamy (Torch of the Century) rights movement. Abdirasulova told Azattyk she believes Sagidullaev when he says the SNB are in Kyrgyzstan to take him and his family back. She noted it would not be the first time SNB agents have entered Kyrgyzstan without permission from the Kyrgyz government and snatched Uzbek citizens from Kyrgyzstan’s cities.

So Kylym Shamy is trying to help Sagidullaev and his family to receive official refugee status. “With the help of an attorney, we have appealed to the [UNHCR] representative office in Almaty [Kazakhstan], but we still have not received an answer from there,” Abdirasulova said.

Of course, Uzbekistan’s government maintains Sagidullaev is simply a thief, and there have been enough examples of Uzbek officials and businessmen pilfering from the state to make such charges plausible.

In Sagidullaev’s favor, Uzbek authorities do not appear to have been much interested in getting him back from Kyrgyzstan until the social network campaign aimed at the World Bank was launched. And if he did take $1 million, one wonders why he and his family are living in a refugee camp in a neighboring country when they could be far away in more luxurious accommodations.

But for me, the most telling moment was an article posted on the zomondosh.com website on July 3, roughly one month after Uzbekistan issued the arrest warrant for Sagidullaev. It was titled “Down With the Faithless, or Who Is This Aman Sagidullayev?” and written by someone calling themselves Nurlan Kanapiev. The words used to describe Sagidullaev would apply equally to the devil. Usually when that happens in Central Asia, one senses a servant of the government at work.

The latest report from Azattyk about Sagidullaev said representatives from Kyrgyzstan's Interior Ministry and State National Security Committee had met with the Karakalpak leader.

-- Bruce Pannier

Ulan Eshamtov, Cholpon Sulaymanova, and Zhildys Orospakova of RFE/RL’s Kyrgyz Service helped in preparing this report
A grab from Pink Floyd's music video for the song "Louder Than Words," filmed near Aralsk and the Aral Sea in Kazakhstan.
A grab from Pink Floyd's music video for the song "Louder Than Words," filmed near Aralsk and the Aral Sea in Kazakhstan.

The legendary rock group Pink Floyd has a new album, "The Endless River," and it has a Central Asian connection. The video for the song "Louder Than Words" was filmed on the northern part of what once was the Aral Sea.

RFE/RL's Uzbek Service, known locally as Ozodlik, contacted Aubrey Powell, the creative director for Pink Floyd and someone who has been working with the band since 1967. He explained the choice of the site, the difficulties in obtaining permission to film there, and the message behind the video.

For inspiration, Powell said he looked back to a video he had done earlier this year for the song "Marooned" from the 1994 album "The Division Bell."

"I decided for that [video] to go to Chernobyl -- [the town of] Pripyat. And we shot that film there, and it had fantastic reception because it was drawing people's attention to the death of that city through nuclear power and the dangers of nuclear power," he told Ozodlik.

Powell said that brought him to think about doing the new video "about an environmental situation -- and one of the first things that sprang to mind was the Aral Sea."

The Aral Sea, once the fourth-largest inland body of water in the world, is dying. The diversion of water during Soviet times from Central Asia's two great rivers -- the Syr-Darya and Amu-Darya -- into the cotton fields of the region have shrunk the lake to some 10 percent of its original size in less than 100 years. The exposed soil became alkaline and the wind in the area now blows salt through the region, causing health problems and withering crops.

Fishing boats that once plied the Aral Sea are now rusting hulls lying in the desert many kilometers from where the shores of the lake are now.

It was that surreal quality of ships stranded in the emptiness of the desert that appealed to Powell; but as he said, he also wanted to bring an environmental message to people. Powell said the video is "not so much about the disaster -- that's been written about endlessly -- but more about a generational thing, more about what it means to the younger generation, the children of the impoverished and disenfranchised communities around the Aral Sea that have lost fishing and culture."

Children dominate the end of the video as they play in these rotting vessels lying in a desolate landscape. Powell said, "that's in part what the film is about and it's about the fact of their loss and their only knowledge of the sea, and the beauty of that sea, and what it represented to their community, is through their grandparents or their parents, but they [the children] will never know."

The video for "Louder Than Words" was filmed in around Aralsk, Kazakhstan, one of many once-thriving fishing villages ringing the Aral Sea in what is today Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.

And that brings up the choice of Kazakhstan. It was not Powell's original choice -- that was Uzbekistan, or preferably both countries. But as Powell explained, "In Uzbekistan, to go and film in Uzbekistan, you have to be invited by a company." Powell said he had contacts in Uzbekistan but they didn't have licenses; and the Uzbek Embassy in London told him even once the proper invitation from a licensed company was extended, it would still be two or three weeks to process.

"So I said, 'OK, I can't go to Uzbekistan, I'll go to Kazakhstan,'" and Powell added, "In Kazakhstan, I was in within a week, and we did the film."

Powell said the choice of the title "Louder Than Words" was connected to the saying "actions speak louder than words" and he hoped Pink Floyd's video would draw the attention of the band's followers to what is happening to the Aral Sea and to places where similar processes are just starting. "Their [Pink Floyd's] blog has 28 million followers, so you've got to look at [the video] in the sense of making people aware about what's happening in the world."

I was struck by one comment Powell made during the interview. He noted that in Kazakhstan, at least, many of the ships aground in the desert were being cut up and hauled away for scrap metal, which he said was a shame for the people living there now, and for those who might continue to live there. "Now they've taken away the rusting ships, most of them, their heritage of seeing those monuments to that culture, which has been there for centuries, has been destroyed."

-- Bruce Pannier, based on an interview by Khurmat Babajanov of Ozodlik

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Qishloq Ovozi is a blog by RFE/RL Central Asia specialist Bruce Pannier that aims to look at the events that are shaping Central Asia and its respective countries, connect the dots to shed light on why those processes are occurring, and identify the agents of change.​

The name means "Village Voice" in Uzbek. But don't be fooled, Qishloq Ovozi is about all of Central Asia.

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