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Mediators Report 'Important Progress' In Karabakh Talks, But Difficulties Remain

Prior to Munich, Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian (right) met with his Azerbaijani counterpart, Ilham Aliyev, in the Moldovan capital, Chisinau, on October 8.
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MUNICH (RFE/RL) -- Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev and his Armenian counterpart, Serzh Sarkisian, made "important progress" today at four hours of talks in the German city of Munich to discuss the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, mediators say.

"Some important progress has been reached," said Bernard Fassier from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). "At the same time, we have identified some difficulties."

Both Aliyev and Sarkisian left the talks without speaking to journalists.

Fassier told reporters that he and his co-mediators from the United States and Russia would begin to prepare for the next round of talks, but did not say when such talks might take place.

Today's talks were the latest in a string of meetings held this year as the two leaders seek to settle their countries' long-standing dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh, an enclave in Azerbaijan controlled by ethnic Armenian forces.

Mediators from the United States, Russia, and France -- the co-chairs of the OSCE's mediating Minsk Group -- say they have been making progress in the talks. But so far neither side has committed to difficult concessions.

Hrair Tamrazian, the director of RFE/RL's Armenian Service, was in Munich today and quotes Fassier as saying the two leaders discussed some issues for the first time. When pressed for details about what progress had actually been made, Tamrazian says mediators declined to elaborate.

Tamrazian says the talks lasted longer than expected and quotes OSCE mediators as saying that was an indication of the "depth" of the discussions.

"I think today what was impressive was the way the two presidents worked with us, the depths of their discussion, the seriousness of the discussion, their willingness to discuss points that are quite difficult and quite controversial," said U.S. mediator Robert Bradtke. "I think, as someone who is relatively new to this process, that is what impressed me the most."

Diplomacy 'Exhausted'

Today's talks came days after Aliyev said hopes to resolve the conflict through diplomatic means would be "exhausted" if an agreement did not materialize in Munich.

Speaking on November 20 at a meeting of Azerbaijani refugees from the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, he warned that Azerbaijan is ready to use force to reclaim the rebel region.

It wasn't the first time Aliyev has threatened force to take back the territory.

Although the line of contact is unstable, Tamrazian says armed conflict is unlikely.

"I don't believe that there will be a use of force. Neither France nor the United States will let that happen," Tamrazian says. "In two days, Ilham Aliyev travels to Moscow to meet Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, and the Russians will try to persuade him that not only Armenia, but also Azerbaijan, has to make concessions."

Said Fassier: "In Moscow, Paris, and Washington, our governments are of the opinion that war is not an option because war could be providing no solution."

Aliyev's comments reflect Azerbaijani fears that Turkey's move last month to normalize ties with Armenia could ruin hopes for regaining control over Nagorno-Karabakh.

Turkey, a staunch ally of Azerbaijan, has consistently supported Baku in the dispute.

Ethnic Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh, backed by Armenia, broke off from Azerbaijani rule in a war in the early 1990s that killed about 30,000 people and displaced hundreds of thousands.

With Reuters
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by: Orhan Ertugruloglu from: the Netherlands
November 22, 2009 17:57
There are 3 obstacles before 2 parties shake hands in the near future. The withdrawal of Armenian troops from 7 regions surrounding the Nagorno-Karabakh and the return of Azeri refugees to their homes; providing a corridor to Azerbaıjan between Nakhcievan and azerbaıjan and the clear definition of the status of the corridor and how the security of this will be assured and the reaching of an interim agreement.

by: HA!
November 22, 2009 19:17
"Important progress" Yeah right... Karabakh being under Azerbaijani rule is an old soviet story. Enough of the territorial hunger of the Aliev dynasty, leave the Armenians alone!

by: Arta from: Seattle, WA
November 22, 2009 20:28
@Orhan, making more concessions are we? The Armenians aren't obligated to withdraw troops from the NKR let alone provide a corridor to Nakhchivan, even at the beset of the great warmongerer, Aliyev.

by: J from: US
November 23, 2009 13:15
Without free elections in Azerbaijan there won't be progress. HOw long does Alief intend to stay as president? EU should be pushing for changes in Azerbaijan.

by: Hamik C Gregory from: Reno,Nevada USA
November 23, 2009 14:46
Russia is no longer in Azerbaijan. To end Azeri threats, Armenians should encourage Iranians to declare Golestan and Torkumenchay treaties null and void and claim Azeri territory. Iranians will give Nogorno Karabakh to Armenia and allow the Armenian Republic to be independent and then occupy Baku oil fields and vast southeastern Caspian Coast line which contains vast continental shelf oil fields.
It is exactly because of these fears that Azerbaijanis have falsified their history claiming themselves to be genuine Turks. They are not. They only have linguistic affinity with the Turks and nothing else.
Azeris are shias and have Zoroastrian heritage which tell us definitively that they have Iranian origins. Centuries ago, when Persian speaking western part of The Persian Empire became dominated by the Ottoman Turks, Persians living there adopted Turkish so they could deal with their Turkish overlords. Now Azeris should grow up and stop making childish threats. Karabakh is gone for good. It will never be returned to Azerbaijan. So they should think of the future and provide jobs and prosperity for the refugees living in
boxcars in Baku railroad station. Turks have grown up and matured as a nation, but Azeris whine and complain like children. It’s enough!

by: Jake from: Canada
November 23, 2009 19:28
Every Azeri must be brought to the realization that their leaders' shallow principals of "prestige" in "winning" the Karabakh question does not match the deep human desire for living in freedom, liberty, and as importantly, living in their own free homeland, as Armenians aspire to.

Once Azeris understand this, peace will reign overnight and those who migrated can come back and live peacefully with their Armenian neighbors in a free and independent Artsakh.

by: Ali Amin
November 23, 2009 20:22
What is this "important progress" they speak of? I think Azerbaijan should leave the Armenians alone - after all, Karabakh is not an Azerbaijani place. This is just an excuse for the Alief to stick to power.

Really sad.

by: J from: US
November 26, 2009 03:31
"Exxon said that its profits in the third quarter declined 68 percent, to $4.73 billion, or 98 cents a share." This is the world's biggest oil company.
How much you think Azerbaijan lost then? But will they ever tell?!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/business/global/30oil.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=exxon&st=cse

by: Sohrab from: Baku
December 11, 2009 10:38
Guys,
stop counting Azerbaijan's money - we are fine. The economic growth in 2009 is one of the highest in the world. Armenia is in a roller coaster decline with 16% slowdown and presumably similar rate in 2010 according to Armenian government.

Hamik, keep your theories on origins of Azerbaijanies to yourself - they are funniest. and do not cheer too early - Karabakh will be returned to Azerbaijan.
Let alone the justice of such development (read history and unbiased history - and see when Yerevan became an Armenian town, what was the Armenian population share in South-east Armenia till 1988, when Armenian population of Karabakh migrated there - hint: after Gulestan treaty), this suits well the current international system. If we are for self-determination, then we demand that 200 thousand Azerbaijanis that were expelled from Armenia in 1988 return and get a right of self-determination as well.

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