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Flare-Up In Turkmen-Azerbaijani Dispute Latest Nabucco Challenge

Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev (left) with his Turkmen counterpart Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov in Baku in May 2008, when the chances for a resolution to the dispute seemed more likely.

July 27, 2009
By Bruce Pannier
The unexpected and sudden renewal of the Turkmen-Azerbaijani dispute over three hydrocarbon fields in the middle of the Caspian Sea is the latest setback to the European Union's Nabucco gas-pipeline project.

An argument over ownership of the Caspian fields had soured Turkmen-Azerbaijani relations for more than a decade. But over the last two years, representatives of the two countries -- prodded by EU and U.S. officials -- had been meeting regularly, reviving hopes that Nabucco could be realized.

Those hopes took a hit on July 24 when Turkmen President Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov cited a report from Deputy Foreign Minister Toyly Komekov during a cabinet meeting.

Berdymukhammedov said the report showed that the impasse over the demarcation of the Caspian seabed between the two countries has remained unresolved "due to Azerbaijan's specific position. The main reason behind this situation is that there are mineral deposits located exactly in the disputed areas of the Caspian Sea. Azerbaijan claims ownership of these deposits, including the deposit known as Promezhutochnoyee during the Soviet era and which we now call our Serdar deposit."

Berdymukhammedov went on to mention the Omar and Osman fields, which he said Azerbaijan is already exploring but which, he claimed, "belong to us." The Turkmen president expressed regret that 16 bilateral meetings had not resolved the issue and then instructed Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov to take the issue to "the International Court of Arbitration."

More Gas Needed

That could present a major obstacle to the European Union's Nabucco plans. The proposed 3,300-kilometer pipeline starts at Georgia's western border and then heads toward Europe via Turkey. Nabucco wants to include Central Asian gas in the pipeline, particularly gas from Turkmenistan, which has one of the world's largest reserves of natural gas.

For some 15 years now the plan was to construct a "trans-Caspian" pipeline along the Caspian seabed from Turkmenistan to Azerbaijan, where it would be join a pipeline leading to Georgia's western border. But the dispute between Ashgabat and Baku over ownership of the three Caspian fields made construction of this pipeline impossible.

Proposed route of the Nabucco pipeline
The recent warming of ties between the two countries, including a visit by Berdymukhammedov to Baku last year, raised hopes the pipeline could finally be built.

On state television on July 25, Deputy Foreign Minister Xalaf Xalafov indicated Azerbaijan was prepared to have a court decide on the ownership issue. "We believe that we are ready to defend Azerbaijan's position and rights on all levels," Xalafov said.

Ilham Shaban, an Azerbaijan-based energy expert and the editor of the "Turan Energy" daily newsletter, tells RFE/RL's Turkmen Service that after years of this dispute, a court ruling may be the most "civilized" means of ending the stalemate.

"And to take this matter before a court is a natural step and we also hope the court will render a fair verdict," Shaban says.

Shaban adds that a resolution of the ownership question could then pave the way for dramatic improvement in Turkmen-Azerbaijani ties, which in turn opens up the way for projects like Nabucco. Nabucco foresees that the lion's share of the proposed 31 billion cubic meters of gas for the pipeline would come from Turkmenistan.

"I feel that this court will render a decision that will bring our countries even closer together if Ashgabat and Baku will observe and accept the decision of the International Arbitration Court," he says.

Shaban concedes that if the two countries do not show flexibility and maintain the rigid posturing that has marred bilateral ties for so long, the court case could drag on for years and endanger the construction of the trans-Caspian pipeline and also Nabucco.

Guvanch Geraev and Marat Rakhimov of RFE/RL's Turkmen Service contributed to this report
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by: Nasser from: Baku
August 17, 2009 14:45
Hi Alain,

I am happy you are so interested in history. Keep reading. When you finish with the basics, come back, I will teach you the rest.

by: Alain Delone from: France
August 13, 2009 23:47
Hi Nasser

tell us about Azerbaijan history, what does Azarbaijan means ? is it a new name for Garden of Fire, or Gas? I looked in Old world history books in the library and I did not see any reference to Azerbaijan,is Azerbaijan new country? please tell me about Azeri people, are they hunter and gatherers? what they believe? thank you very much.

by: Nasser from: Baku
August 12, 2009 17:54
Dear Anoush,

Historically, for many centuries the modern Armenia was part of Persia. Can you accept that, today, modern Iran has a right to occupy Armenia? I know that you will answer that such scenarion is unfare and inacceptable. Then, why you expect Azerbaijan to act different?

by: DR.Anoush from: Armenia
August 11, 2009 13:52
Dear Nasser
You proved again that you look to issues surface deep.

When Armenia became a World Champion, that means it did not matter what colour of the chess piece was played and most importantly which nation was the challenger.

When it comes to justice we have full trust on our Long History. Do not be afraid of Armenians but of imitators.


by: Nasser from: Baku
August 10, 2009 13:24
RD,

Please try to read my comment without negative emotions and think for yourself. I have no intention to hurt your patriotic, nationalistic, or whatsoever feelings.

Do you know that several Armenians have participated in Sumgait event? If you do not know, I tell you about one of them. The surname of this criminal is (I don’t remember his first name) is Grigoryan who raped and killed with axe poor Armenian women and was arrested by investigators from Moscow after the events and was sentenced after a trial.

Another fact: during Baku events 11,000 internal troops of Soviet Army were patrolling the streets of Baku but they didn’t interfere because they didn’t have such order from their commanders – isn’t it strange?

If such real facts are carefully reviewed, it becomes clear that these events were inspired by KGB of Soviet Union in an attempt to put Armenia and Azerbaijan into an ethnic conflict (Russian Empire has done it many times in the history) that will prevent the disintegration process in Caucasus and big brother will hold the region under control of military force and militia. It worked partially, the conflict was successfully generated but the SU collapsed anyway. Now, there is a big question, which has benefited from this conflict: 1,000,000 Azeri refugees from Armenia, NKR and surrounding regions or 500,000 Armenian refugees from Baku and Sumgait? I think the answer is obvious that all these more than 1,5 million simple people who had no political or nationalistic ambitions are the victims of big injustice…

by: Nasser from: Baku
August 10, 2009 12:20
Dear DR Anoush,

Don’t’ hurry dear colleague. . If you are so familiar with chess championship rules, I believe you know that the set is not consists of one game only. There are games which plaid with white and games that you play with black. So, Armenia has played with whites and has got achievements. Now it is turn of Azerbaijan to play whites in political competition and I am very much confident that we are winning. After a permanent peace based on justice will be established between our countries, I will be glad to play chess with you.

Best regards, Nasser

by: DR.Anoush from: Armenia
August 08, 2009 02:25
Dear Nasser,
your arguments do not correspond to reality or common sense or normal negotiation pattern or cease fire agreements after Azeri full war on Nagorno Karabakh Republic.

Armenia now is the Olympic Chess Champion in the world for the second time. We know what comes first. Please understand these points.

1-AZERI war started in reaction when PEACEFUL NKR declared independence from USSR for self defence or self preservation from collapsing Soviet Union, before that Armenians and Azeris where very good neighbours for decades under Soviet union regime.

2-The demilitarization on Armenian side will end only when the final peace treaty is signed, not before as you suggesting, this is safe for Azeri population too on the border line and for the region.

3-Azeri and Turkish diplomacy towards Armenia and NKR so far is arrogant one and self deceiving, your leaders talk about projects, power, money, gas, petrol and weapons but I tell you that your Leadership and your ideas are already Check-mated, the game is over.

by: RD
August 07, 2009 17:30
Nasser, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about (i.e. events in Sumgait, Baku etc.). Armenians in Karabakh peacefully asked to separate from Azerbaijan because they were not treated as equals to Azeris and were treated as second class citizens. What was the Azeri response? Throwing Armenians out of their balconies, buses, homes and beating them to death. That is what precipitated the war between Armenians and Azerbaijan. If Azerbaijan peacefully dealt with Armenian dissidents, the war could have been averted. If you ever bother reading independent sources to the hour by hour events of what took place, you will realize that Armenians of Karabakh were at one point willing to live under Azeri rule (i.e. status quo), but not after the pogroms that were committed against them by Azeris. Trust is hard to re-build and Armenians do not trust you Azeris after what you have done to them. Hence, there is no way Armenians of Karabakh will ever feel safe living under Azeri rule. As for giving away Karabakh, if you ever visit Karabakh, you will realize that despite all the economic hardships of the area, the people now live in peace, and harmony. They have built a government and live with high hopes for the future. Exponentially more than what Azeris have given them in the past.

by: Nasser from: Baku
August 06, 2009 03:57
Anoush, Thank you for your comment. Having a diplomatic relations is good but unfortunately it is the only difference that you can put forward to differenciate AZERI and Turkmeni Turks.

I perfectly know that Armenian people want peace. As soon as Armenia will withdraw troops from Karabakh and other regions of Azerbaijan, I am absolutely sure that a peace treaty that will put an end to the war will be signed. This treaty will open the borders and will provide guarranty for wellbeing of all (any nationality including Armenians) people living in Azerbaijan and Karabakh will be treated equally good.

I know that not all Armenians are negative about Azerbaijanies. We also say that not all Armenians are bad. But, let me ask you a question: Do you know, where were the good Armenians when 300,000 ethnic Azerbaijanies were bitten and were forced out of Armenia, what actually triggered the Sumgait events?

In my opinion, the good people outnumber the bad people, but the bad people are better organaized... Do you agree with me?


by: Nasser from: Baku
August 05, 2009 18:04
Anoush,
I perfectly understand that Armenia wants peace. There is nothing unusual. As soon as Armenia returns the occupied territories, a peace treaty will be signed immediately and Armenia will obtain an access to benefits of the regional international projects. Why not...

We also say that there are good and bad Armenians. But, please, tell me where were the good Armenians when more than 300,000 Azerbaijanians were bitten and forced (hundreds of these refugees died on the way thouthands became invalids because of injuries)out of Armenia in the beginning (before Sumgait) of this bloody conflict? Can you? Neither, do I.
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