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Future Kyrgyz Government Faces Traditional North-South Divide

Ousted President Kurmanbek Bakiev talks to his supporters in his home village of Teyit in the southern Jalal-Abad region.
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By Bruce Pannier
Kyrgyzstan. One country or two?

On the map it's one country, but since the first days of independence in late 1991 observers have warned of a possible north-south split.

The prospect came to the fore most recently when, in the midst of a violent uprising that began in the northwestern city of Talas on April 6 and continued the next day in Bishkek, President Kurmanbek Bakiev sheltered in his native south. There, in the safety of his support base, he sought help to counter the "northerners" who had chased him from the capital.

Today, Bakiev is no longer president, having resigned and fled to Minsk for safe haven. But the north-south split he tried to use to his advantage remains a considerable political reality.

Previous Kyrgyz governments have been careful to include representatives from both the northern and southern parts of the country. One example was the "tandem" of President Bakiev, from the south, and Prime Minister Feliks Kulov, from the north.

Within the temporary government running the country until elections can be held in October, interim leader Roza Otunbaeva was born in Osh, the south's biggest city and the country's second-largest, but has spent enough time in the north that many no longer regard her as a southerner. Another leader in the interim government, Omurbek Tekebaev, has spent much of his political career in Bishkek, but his southern origins could give him more weight among voters there.

Striking A Balance

As the country works to form a new government, the need to strike a balance between southerners and northerners in its makeup will be one key to its success. Failure to do so risks provoking the north-south rivalry.

"I think that the main differences [between the north and south] are that the southern Kyrgyz have lived for a long time with the local population, which are the Uzbeks and Tajiks of the Ferghana Valley who have lived here a long time and lived a sedentary lifestyle," explains Nurbek Kasymov, legal consul for the Jalal-Abad branch of the Center for the Support of Civil Society. "And a significant proportion of southern Kyrgyz mixed with them in villages and adopted to some degree their style of life, culture. And also of importance is that before the Russians arrived, [Kyrgyz, Tajiks, and Uzbeks] lived in one Kokand Khanate."

Kasymov contrasts that to what was a mainly nomadic culture in northern Kyrgyzstan. "There really was not much of an influence of the Kokand Khanate on northern Kyrgyzstan. You could say they didn't bow to the Kokand Khanate," he says. "They lived as they wished. I think this mentality and tradition is to some extent preserved. And also southern Kyrgyzstan has to a degree a local dialect and it is a little different from the Kyrgyz spoken in the north."

'A Bit More Patient'

Kamil Satkanbaev, a television journalist and political expert in the southern city of Osh, also sees north-south differences. "It is to some extent true that people in the south are more hospitable and a little more, I would say -- and not just to defend southerners, and I am a southerner -- but a little more observant of how things are developing," he says. "And maybe people of the south are just a bit more patient than people in the north."

But Kasymov and Satkanbaev emphasize there are no huge differences between peoples from the two regions, with Kasymov pointing out one important similarity. In each region, he says, tens of thousands of residents have become migrant workers in Russia, Kazakhstan, and other countries.

Among those who remain at home to make a living, Satkanbaev points out a key difference: "Generally here, people are farmers and herders," he says. "The industrial areas are all in the north."

Faithful In Abundance

Contrasting levels of religious zeal are often mentioned in the debate over what divides the Muslims of Kyrgyzstan's north and south. "Many analysts and researchers remark that in southern Kyrgyzstan people are more religious than the people in the north," Kasymov says.

A U.S. military plane at the Manas air base
But while Satkanbaev acknowledges the faithful are in greater abundance in the south, he is careful to point out that that doesn't necessarily mean they are stricter adherents.

"There are more followers of Islam here than in the north, but I need to say that there are excellent Muslims in the north and I mean that in the best sense of the word," Satkanbaev says. "And they differ from a few of the Muslims of the south who consider themselves the most religious but are using various narcotics, and I've seen this with my own eyes. Some even drink alcohol, for example, but they consider themselves Muslims."

The contrasts also manifest themselves in the ethnic and cultural makeup of the two regions, with the north considered more Russified and the south better reflecting the native traditions of Central Asia.

As noted by Kasymov, southern Kyrgyzstan -- essentially Kyrgyzstan's sector of the Ferghana Valley -- is home to large numbers of Tajiks and Uzbeks. As Satkanbaev notes: "Russians, Dungans, are in the north, but here [in the south] there is not a large Russian population. Uzbeks make up about one-fourth of the population, but most of them live here in the south. I would say there are more than 800,000 [Uzbeks] here in the south."

Communication Breakdown

Communication between north and south is also tenuous. While regular flights link Bishkek to Osh, Jalal-Abad, and Batken, there are only two usable roads through the mountains to connect north to south. It is a full day's drive to travel the 650 kilometers between Bishkek and Osh.

Not all state channels from Bishkek reach the south, leaving southern residents more likely to receive their television and radio broadcasts from neighboring Uzbekistan than from the capital. People in the north, meanwhile, are more apt to have Russian channels available for viewing.

For most Kyrgyz, none of the differences between north and south would be enough to lead either population to favor a regional split. There are key issues relevant to Kyrgyzstan's international relations on which there is no room for debate.

There are two foreign military bases in Kyrgyzstan -- one American and one Russian -- and both are located in the north. In geographic and strategic terms, their locations appear to make no sense. The U.S. "transit center" at Manas air base is used for supporting U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan, while the Russian base in Kant is part of a CIS Collective Security Treaty Organization agreement to create a counterterrorism base in Central Asia.

Both would be more logically located in southern Kyrgyzstan, where the trip to Afghanistan is shorter and where any terrorist or militant activities are more likely to be found. But the intense southern resistance to outside influence, particularly military, is something Bishkek is well aware of.
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by: Aibek
April 27, 2010 01:24
The north, particularly Bishkek and Chuy Oblast, are much more Russified. Although everyone has a village they go to for holidays many live an urban lifestyle like any other former Soviet republic, and are more comfortable speaking Russian than Kyrgyz. The south is quite different-- and I have mainly only been to Osh which is the "big city."

by: Alice from: Bishkek
April 27, 2010 07:46
In Soviet era Kremlin was careful about dividing the power, it was balancing representatives from both parts. Then Akayev, the norther came to the power, and for a decade the south was neglected. Bakiev, even if he is the southern, did little for his "homeland". I think dividing power between southerns and northers will do little in uniting the two parts of Kyrgyzstan, in making people from north closer to south. The change should come from people themselves. They should stop seeing each other as rivalries, competitors and start to think as one nation. One single ideology - it can be a western model of democracy or Islam - can unite them, which will be their only goal and worry. After the fall of communism Kyrgyz people are still searching for their model of life, struggling with traditions, religions, western model of democracy, trying to preserve all of them but finding out their non-compatibility. The people should agree on one ideology.
About the American base near Bishkek: its location is not really a "nonsense", the reason why Americans use Manas airport is that it is the airport constructed to be able to carry heavy loads on its surface. Of course Americans could build a new airport in south so they are closer to Afghanistan, but why to build something while their presence is a matter of time.
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by: Turgai Sangar
April 27, 2010 13:38
Alice, I don't believe so much in this matter of time, situated as it is so close to China and knowing, as many of us do, that the rivalry and collisions which will shape the geopolitcal landscape in the decade(s) to come will be between the US and China.

http://qirim-vilayeti.com/content/view/1283/97/

by: Turgai Sangar
April 27, 2010 13:33
What I liked about the article is that it suggests that the religious dynamics in Kyrgyzstan are much more complex than a matter of a 'russianized north' versus a 'more Muslim south'. In fact, Dawa groups that would like to bring the Kyrgyz brothers (back) to Islam are more active in the north lately than in the south.

What blurrs the lines also is that over the last decades a number of southerners have moved to the greater Bishkek area or go seasonally to Russia and Kazakhstan in search of work.

Despite the regionalism there has never been a secessionist movement in either part (like in Talysh-Mugan, Nagorno-Karabakh and even Gorno-Badakhshan at the time).

by: Seyit from: Bishkek
April 27, 2010 14:38
There is NO North/South divide. Hoax. It is a myth as real as the loch ness monster. Why write such articles? What does it inform readers of?

Kyrgyzstan needs economic reforms and this is what needs to be covered not the old story of north/south split. Outdated.
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by: Brian Chew from: Dubai
April 29, 2010 12:07
Seyit.

I was shocked to read that you think the Loch Ness monster is a myth, where I come from it is a national pastime plus I am quite sure I saw it swimming around last year in Issyk Kul or perhaps it was the effect of Baltica 7 and smoked fish on the beach. ?
Seriously though you are right, economic reforms and a fair crack for the hard working people of your beautiful country is long overdue.


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by: Guest from: Bishkek
May 01, 2010 12:42
Good point! Bakiev through his actions once again proved that the North/South divide is a myth created by autocratic politicians, similar to the myth that there is extremist (Islamic extremism) danger in Kyrgyzstan.

Time for bold political/economic reforms!

by: Kuda from: The World
April 27, 2010 20:03
A few points:

Bruce you state:

"There, in the safety of his support base, he sought help to counter the "northerners" who had chased him from the capital."

Not sure about the above. We all saw the angry men and women who broke up Bakiev's demos. Need to be relative; he had a couple o thousand people maximum coming out in support. Given that it is common practice for politicians to pay 'supporters' to come out. I don't think Bakiev has any real power in north or south.

"But the north-south split he tried to use to his advantage remains a considerable political reality."

Considerable? Again, I think this is loose and anecdotal.

Kasymov's comments are interesting but seem a bit rosy. I read the comments to say southerners, be they Kyrgyz, Tadjik, Uzbek live in harmony. I hope they do. History tells us otherwise.

Satkanbaev's comments are weak. It's a bit like interviewing a football fan pre-match about the opposition.

So far, so what? But Bruce, the comment about locating the airbases in the south, please! I know that you are well-informed, so why this naive comment? Bigger picture do you feel that a flight time distance of 40 minutes is enough for either Russia or the US to build a base in the south? So many reasons why this will not happen.

A bit of a nothing story. Disappointing.

by: AIbek
April 29, 2010 01:14
Interesting story about CDs and leaflets being spread in the south calling for a Democratic Republic of South Kyrgyzstan.

Obviously a ploy by Bakievisti who seek to exploit this "nonexistent" North-South divide. I doubt it will amount to much (unless Karimov jumps in to try to grab the rest of the Fergana Valley)
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by: Turgai Sangar
April 30, 2010 10:12
Yes theoretically Karimov could do that just like he had a hand in the escalation in Tajikistan with arming the Lakaitsi and colonel Khudoberdiev in 1990 (which eventually puts his regime in the same basket as Milosevic's) and the air raid on Kofarnigan (Orjonikizeabad).

It's hard to predict. Yet the Uzbeks in Kyrgyzstan are generally not quite fond of the Karimov regime, and those who did appealed to Karimov for help in the past were made understood that they could figure it out themselves. Also, the recent demos staged by ethnic Uzbeks (in Jalalabad) were anti-Bakiev.

Another thing that we haven't seen so far are intimidation campaigns and attacks against southerners living in and around Bishkek (as there were against Garmi and Ismaili in Dushanbe in 1990). So if the north-south paradigm was *really* alive among the people that was probably one of the first things that would happen.

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