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HRW: Kyrgyz Government Partly Responsible For June Violence

An ethnic Uzbek refugee shows photos of her missing grandsons as she stands on the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border, near the village of Yorkishlak, on June 15.
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By RFE/RL
Following a lengthy investigation, the New York-based group Human Rights Watch says the government of Kyrgyzstan played a role in facilitating the violent attacks against ethnic Uzbeks this past June.

In a new report titled "Where Is The Justice? Interethnic Violence In Southern Kyrgyzstan And Its Aftermath," the group also says the government's own investigation into the violence -- which left many hundreds dead, thousands injured, and hundreds of thousands of ethnic Uzbeks displaced -- has been marred by abuses.

The report is based on weeks of research and more than 200 interviews with Kyrgyz and Uzbek victims and witnesses, lawyers, human rights defenders, government officials, and law enforcement personnel. Satellite imagery and photographic, video, documentary, and forensic evidence was also analyzed.
 
Ethnic Uzbek refugees wait at the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border outside the village of Suratash on June 14.
'Part Of The Problem'


Ole Solvang, HRW's emergencies researcher and one of the authors of the report, says that although "the massive ethnic violence posed colossal challenges for Kyrgyz security forces," the group's own investigation found "that some of the security forces became part of the problem rather than the solution." 

And he tells RFERL's Kyrgyz Service that the group hopes the Kyrgyz government will take the report's findings into consideration as it conducts its own investigation.

"But more than that," he says, "I think we hope that both the international investigation and the national commission will conduct an objective investigation on their own. And if they do, then I think they will come to many of the same conclusions that we do."

The violence began on June 10 in the southern city of Osh, when a large crowd of ethnic Uzbeks gathered in response to a fight between Uzbeks and Kyrgyz. That night, several attacks targeting ethnic Kyrgyz inflamed the region and prompted thousands of Krygyz from surrounding villages to pour into Osh.

From June 11 to June 14, Uzbek neighborhoods were attacked and Uzbek homes and businesses were set alight. Several neighborhoods were burned to the ground.

"Witnesses in various parts of [Osh] told us more or less the same story," HRW researcher Anna Neistat told reporters in Moscow on August 16. "During the violent riots, armored personnel carriers and other armored vehicles moved into the neighborhoods first. They removed makeshift barricades erected by ethnic Uzbeks to protect themselves.

"The APCs were followed by armed men in camouflage who were shooting the residents still on the streets, and then crowds of ethnic Kyrgyz civilians followed, torching and looting homes."

The report acknowledged the government's claim that Kyrgyz mobs stole some weapons and vehicles used in the attacks but says that can't completely account for the use of military vehicles in the attacks.

Not Shown The 'Will'

The report says evidence was found that in at least some neighborhoods, government forces were in control of the vehicles and that in some instances government forces who went into the neighborhoods to disarm residents living there either intentionally or unintentionally gave cover to violent mobs carrying out attacks.

At least 371 people -- and that estimate is thought to be low -- were killed and property damaged throughout several neighborhoods. A massive refugee crisis ensued as ethnic Uzbeks fled across the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border.

The report also deals with the aftermath of the June violence and contains claims that ethnic Uzbeks have been arbitrarily detained and ill-treated in custody. That's despite personal assurances from President Roza Otunbaeva, who told the group she has personally instructed local prosecutors, police, and investigators to comply fully with the law.

"At the moment, I have no doubt that the investigation is being carried out with huge violations," Neistat says. "First of all, I'm talking about large-scale illegal arrests. When we were [in southern Kyrgyzstan], we were overwhelmed by telephone calls, coming in literally every minute, about detentions in Uzbek districts."

'Incredible Tension'


The report contains information that Human Right Watch workers say they received about the torture and ill-treatment of more than 60 detainees, at least one of whom died as a result of injuries suffered in custody.

HRW reports that the Prosecutor-General's Office recently released statistics showing that out of 243 people who have been imprisoned since the violence, only 29 are Kyrgyz, while 213 are Uzbek.

Neistat said that the way the Kyrgyz government handles the investigations will have a powerful effect on the communities.

"Incredible tension and distrust still remain between the two ethnic groups," she says, "and it is clear that the methods currently used by the investigators only add to this tension."

Alik Orozov, the secretary of the Kyrgyz government's Security Council, told RFE/RL's Kyrgyz Service that the government could have done more to keep the calm.

"We agree with some critics that the government forces did not make enough effort to keep the situation under control," Orozov said. "The government forces were not able to take full control over the situation. I can say that during the first days -- June 10 through 12 -- security forces did not act appropriately."

'Must Be Checked'

But he doesn't accept some of the accusations in the report -- including that Kyrgyz forces took part in the violence against ethnic Uzbeks -- and said the information that Human Rights Watch gathered "must be checked."

"The information that Kyrgyz military forces opened fire [on ethnic Uzbeks], that armored personnel carriers came [into Uzbek communities], has to be checked," he said. "So many people who started the clash -- bandits -- dressed in camouflage. So, everything should be accurately clarified.

"[It should be checked] whether Kyrgyz forces were involved or there were others dressed as military personnel. There were several such cases. Perhaps people saw guys in camouflage and thought they were Kyrgyz Army soldiers."

Human Rights Watch has called on the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) to speed up the deployment of the small advisory police group its members have agreed to send to southern Kyrgyzstan to assist the Kyrgyz authorities in reducing ethnic tensions.

In Osh and elsewhere, people have voiced concerns that an outside force might only complicate matters and further escalate tensions.

Orozov said Bishkek is talking to the OSCE about letting its police group train Kyrgyz police forces from the south in civil rights protection.

written by Heather Maher, with contributions from Ashley Cleek and Janyl Chytyrbaeva of RFE/RL's Kyrgyz Service
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 16, 2010 12:44
There are a number of uzbeks and kyrgyz in Moscow.They're all slaves of Moscow's municipal services and working from morning to evening for 300$ per month.

They all hate each other and going to kill each other in visible future.
All this kind of people can to live in peace only under a strict communist low.
For them any kind of democracy is wrong.
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by: New Yorker from: New York, NY
August 16, 2010 20:30
@ Vakhtang,

Those Uzbeks and Kyrgyz working in almost slave condition on Moscow streets are donig so not by choice. They have to, in order to feed their families they left behind. Now your name suggests that you are from the Caucasus. But if you are in fact a native Moscovite then you should be grateful to your parents that they decided to have you in Moscow and give you a better life than you would have had back in a impoverished village back in the Caucasus. Say, if you were born in the Caucasus the odds are such that you would also be toiling next to those Uzbek and Kyrgyz on Moscow streets for a mere $300/month. Am I in the ballpark?

They work in near slave conditions but this doesn't mean that they are lower than you. The Russian government, the Moscow municipal government and people like you are to blame for creating 21st century slavery and treating people like slaves. For this you are even lower than a slace, Vakhtang. You do not think like a civilized person and sound like just came out of your cave in the mountains.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 17, 2010 07:53
To New Yorker.
First of all I'n in hurry to inform you that I was born in Moscow.
I'm half georgian half russian/
My mother was russian.
My father was born in Sukhumi and lived not in impoverished village in cabin, as you mentioned to insult me,but in a mansion that he builded for his money.
Today in this mansion living abkhazian-scoundrel who murdered georgian woman and children
Here we are not talking about why they all in Moscow, but about mutual hate between people and why we have this kind of things.

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by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
August 17, 2010 08:57
"Are you in fact native" New Yourker, insulting for Russia Vahtang in vain,
Along with Georgians, Uzbeks, Kirgiz and the rest of CIS - venomously?
If even you are not from new generation of Russia's lying propaganda,
You hate non-Rusians, except, maybe, Russian Levites and Wanda.

Are you one of those, from Russian's USSR Babilon plagiarists,
Stealing and confiscating from me inventions and discoveries
For Russia, Brits, Germans, Levites and their USA cousins?
Just Logical Arrays and the fast Processors cost trillions!

It is how you talk from money position - as stinky Russia,
Which move to US by whole University to develop stolen,
Suck my blood, steal toilets in villages, replace parasha
In Russia and mock-railroad all my nations, to be fallen?

All refugees and slave labour dragged by Russian evilly,
Genocide and expulsion of millions from robbed lands.
From Georgia twenty percents became the homeless -
That you, proxy of Russia mock - with your dirty hands!

Vahtang helping Russia mantain all the same in post
As expanding Russia. Likely, if of Georgian extraction,
A "native Moscovite", maybe descandent of "Vahtang",
Nephiew of Georgian King, father of Russia's creator!

Russia killed both Georgians, Peter the I and Joseph.
Poisonous Varangs stealing by treason and mocking!
Are you civilized? It is larger insult in your post, Judas!
Return all CIS and mine properties instead of poking!

Konstantin.
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by: New Yorker from: New York, NY
August 17, 2010 16:25
@ Vakhtang,

Let’s debate a point without trading insults, ok?

I am happy for you that your dad had a mansion back in Abkhazia and the fact that you were born in Moscow. But does it make you any special? Living rich or poor doesn't make you who you are. They way you think, act and treat others make you who you are. This is why it really doesn’t matter where you are born or if your dad had a mansion or a hut.

You are bragging about being born in Moscow as if this makes you a better person. You are bragging that your dad had a mansion as if this makes you better than others. If material things make you who you are then how about 140 M people who live in Russia? Not everybody is born in Moscow, right? Only 10 M people live in Moscow. Does this make the other 130 M people losers? How about those people in the Caucasus whose dads didn't have mansion but had a mud huts for an abode? Does it make them bad people, or slaves as you are referring to them?

From what you posted I can see you are 52 years old but I am sorry you seem to have intellectual capacity of an 8-year-old.

We all know that labor migrants including Uzbeks and Kyrgyz are not treated the best in Russia. But those labor migrants did not choose to be treated that way, did they? People who hire them treat like that and that makes the employers look bad, not the employees. For tolerating this situation the Russian society looks bad, not Uzbeks and Kyrgyz.

You have a right to blame Uzbek and Kyrgyz authorities for failing to build an economy that would provide jobs and a decent salary so that those men and women do not have to migrate to Russia for low-paying jobs. But if you look closely things are not that great in Russia either. Russia today has more common with Nigeria than with a European country. Just like Nigeria, Russia lives on oil and gas revenues. Just like Nigeria, Russian oil and gas production and revenues are under strict government control. A modern European country does not live by selling its natural resources but they create something instead. They live by staying one or two paces ahead of other nations.

If Russia didn't have its oil and gas revenues, believe me, there would be much more poverty in Russia and people would be fighting just like people fought in Kyrgyzstan. So whatever easy life you are having in Moscow, you owe to oil and gas, not to genius of Russian authorities or anybody else. You are just lucky to have that, you didn't work to create something...

Which is why you cannot judge Uzbek and Kyrgyz labor migrants in Moscow for working in slave conditions. You could judge the society that creates these conditions and on top of that treats people in 21st century like slaves. This alone shows how backward is things over there!

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
August 16, 2010 19:13
Vahtangovskaya again? Plaing for the Rashka?
Sure, slaves of bloody Russian macaquashka!
They do hate each other, but by order from KGB,
GRU and an imperio-resurectors "Bambu-Bee".

Some are agents, some snitches - rest upset,
Naturally, if their people killed - they must hate
And mourn in memory, being men - evilly bet,
Russia using all resources, that Russia built.

They built it since the 1954-56 and Khrutchev
That started inmplement, specially Brezhnev,
All over CIS and Eastern Europe - like in Psy,
Where they brought to some coarsed Adygei.

Konstantin.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 17, 2010 07:26
Plaing for Rashka?
O,yes, that's why I was sentenced to 8,6 years of inprisonment.
Khrutchev or Brezhnev and their mischiets in past.
We must to talk about today's reality
.
Reality meanwhile(espesialy in Moscow)far away from perfection.
Not only kyrgyz and uzbeks hate each other,but

russians hate russians

georgians hate georgians and so on.

The only possibly way to get something in this world to move to you dream by the heads of outfrosts that in abundance.

That's that Crossbearershvili,that's that.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 17, 2010 11:39
To Kosta.
All you speculations about me is wrong, ,only because that I was born in 1958.
As my life experience showing that there is nothing good in this world.

No god.

No good people, only rascals

No compassion

You language is developed but empty and nothing prove.
Typing all you verses are you amusing youself and nothing more.
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by: Pilgrim
August 17, 2010 15:19
Vakhtang,

You are close to the truth my friend. This world is full of evil, and lovers of evil. However, the God of the Bible is very good, and very real. Seek His face and you will find love and compassion. Only there will you find it, and in His true people (not the many hypocrites who claim to know Him yet have no compassion). I am praying that He reveals Himself to you, Vakhtang from Moscow, as He once did to me.

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
August 17, 2010 16:59
Vahtang, I maybe misstaking about your personally,
I shear your piccimism regarding Human Gusnak
That deserve hell, but I am right about the reality.
Transfer submissivness to victims of Russak?

It is exactly why the Pilgrim, a Russian possibly,
Jump so nahodchivo, forge you mood excitingly
Into a masahist for Russia, as here in USA one,
"Bukashechka-kakashechka", Rus-doctor-lamb.

He also likes talk of compassion - but his "God"
Is God of expanding evils and self-inflicted pain
That sadistic Russia force also on other Worlds.
In 1947 I refused be plagiarized for Russia gain.

I was sentenced to death along with my mother,
Stalin was put under house arrest - same days.
Find more comfortable position to write, brother,
Without being imprisoned and pleasing the foe.

As an "Amir" - Devil of folding for Russia slaves,
He feading you non-God. Bible say that the land
That is given once by God cannot change hands,
As Georgian ethnografy, for known 12,000 years!

Read Bible, don't trust Russian Devil of telepathy!
Even if you thousands miles away from their wed,
They sitting in your brain and sucking into moodity.
If Stalin gaveup Human Civilization would be dead.

I have no plesure in verses, or even writings at all,
But somebody has to fight evil, that simce got you!
To be short, verses visible and persue one's goal.
Russia already sitting in you, picking on what I do?

Konstantin.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 18, 2010 08:03
Hello Kosta.

That old song "Georgian ethnogafy-12,000 years"

Of course it's not bad by itself,a lot of ground to be proud,but how we can to use it in today's georgian situation?

There are as are understand and as I can see a special Putin's team in GOOGLE who rubing out all bad information about abkhazians,that they all murderes and looters and commited a terrible crimes.

What doing georgians in this way?

Nothing!

They even feilured to hand in am application in internationale criminal court to recognize murder of 15,000 georgian woman,children and old people as a genocide.

Instead they are talking about they're great past

by: Christopher from: Texas
August 17, 2010 19:39
Vakhtang, your posts are profound...I acknowledge that I have not experienced the cruel, cold ways of this world. I have enjoyed health, security, and plenty my entire life, of which i am undeserving. I am by no means rich or important. i am blessed, but am not inclined to turn a deaf ear to the rumblings around the world, even a country obscure to most of my countrymen as kyrgystan. Are you a good man? I do not feel i fit neatly in the category of rascal. I am inclined towards darkness, but clamour away from it best i can. I suppose that is the human condition. But, I know this. Good men exist. If they didn't, i shudder to think what the state of this broken world would be. No country has a lock on the goodness they offer, nor the evil. That comes from every part of the world. Good people are everywhere and stand against evil every day. I can only hope that this is a worldview that I carry with me throughout all stages of my remaining life, no matter what it may bring. I hope that my children see this in me and want to try to be good too....
There is an army of folks trying to be good and upright, and they are facing down evil as I write this.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 18, 2010 07:23
How do you do Christopher.

I did not say that I'm a good guy,there are a number of folks who belives that I'm a bad one,and when I wrote that no good people in this world I did mean of course that mach less that bad one.

As you said good people stand against evil every day, but who determined what is evil and what is good?

I do not mean classical definition of this two conceptions,it seems to me that's it not working today.

Unfortunately it is impossible to live today and not doing evil.
As you father ,I'm sure that you'll be do evil if it'll bring you children good.
Yes that right that there is an army of folks trying to be good and upright,but the question is why they all doing it, and how many hypocrites among them

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 18, 2010 03:48
Sorry Pilgrim,but I can't to belive in what I can't to see,feel or hear,that's why I'm atheist
For me Bible is a fairy-tale.
Nature of human is very aggressive,people want to insult each other,beat each and kill tach other.
It'll be better if you'll give one or the other scheme how to extract money from greedys.

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
August 18, 2010 08:49
To New Yorker.
You really satisfied, that you throwed out a bucket of mud at my head and you named it "debate a point without trading insult"

O.K. man everything is all right.

It's main thing were you where born,because you are soaking up traditions,habits and outlook of this place,that why many people from east very glad to stone unfaithful woman or to cut out hands to thief.

Some people is very wild and they wanna to live in this way

As for kyrgyz and uzbeks are you not in theme.
Not they arrived in Moscow to earn some money, but some people organized it to make money on them,a big money by the way.

by: christopher from: Texas
August 18, 2010 17:58
Thank you vakhtang.
I do not believe in a sliding scale on what constitutes good and evil. I don't believe that you can let the individual determine that in a society and expect justice and security.
Not every person lives by absolutes. I believe that to steal is evil. But there are people who think it is not wrong. What a mess to let everyone decide for themselves.
I think there has to be a standard. But where do you get that standard? I believe like you you seem to. We are all bad, and some try to be good. Not the other way around.
I know you disregard the Bible of the christian as fairytale, but ironically your worldview coincides with that of the christian Bible, that people are hopelessly broken.
The danger i fear is to not take a stand either way, to reside in the middle "gray" area. Folks in the middle will go with the flow, cease to combat evil, and be rendered meaningless in the struggle between those two forces. Good people and evil people matter one way or another, and the definition works today as it did in ages past whether people want to acknowledge that or not. They struggle against each other and maintain that status quo. Evil will not triumph until goodness is destroyed.
Hypocrites are all around us. I am hypocritical sometimes. That is part of my human condition, but will become less and less common as i grow in maturity and sincerity. The reality of Hypocrites is not a good excuse to abandon uprightness and accept evil on equal ground.
I do not begin to truly understand the intricate nature of international politics and societal trends, but there are laws and truths in play that far transcends these spheres.
Thanks for reading this...my mere opinion and pinings. That shows a great deal of respect and i am honored...

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
August 19, 2010 19:11
Georgians, unfortunatelly, don't talk that much about past,
Dark forces gasing their spirit by many "Cheremushkas",
Including psycho and propaganda warfare A-H bombs,
And conspiracy of Imperio-resurectors since 1954-56.

But I do and science does! On the first pages, maps
Of begining of Human Civilization, school's books,
If not baned by Khrutchev and OK from the Brits,
It's clear seen expanding from Georgia's hills.

You absolutely right about Abkhazia's deed
And about Putin's propaganda, - however,
Most real Abkhazians are also maimed,
From 170,000 only 40,000 is left there.

It's the Russia that planed and carried
Since 1954-56 to annex and genocide,
40,000 of KGB, Spetcnaz and the Army
Staffed by Adygy-Psy looking personal
With an intermarried PshBa dammies.

You also right that Georgians and CIS
Are doing very little, - they were staffed
By Rusak impudence, usurping USSR
Just Case loyalty to hypnotize and bluff.

Konstantin.

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