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Interview: Mothers Say U.S. Hikers' Yearlong Detention 'Outrageous'

The mothers of the detained Americans before leaving for Iran in May

The mothers of the detained Americans before leaving for Iran in May

July 30, 2010
On July 31, 2009, three Americans were arrested by Iranian forces after they purportedly strayed across the Iranian border while hiking in Iraqi Kurdistan. Shane Bauer, 27; Sarah Shourd, 31; and Josh Fattal, 27, have been held in Iran ever since, without charges, and are currently in Tehran's notorious Evin prison. RFE/RL correspondent Nikola Krastev, who last spoke to the hikers' mothers in May after they traveled to Iran to try to secure their children's release, catches up with them again ahead of their address on July 30 before Iran's Permanent Mission to the United Nations.

RFE/RL: What have you been doing since your visit to Tehran in May?

Cindy Hickey, mother of Shane Bauer:
Well, we've been writing to Iranian officials asking for meetings, some contacts, [but] we don't get a response from them. Nora [Shourd] and I actually went to London and did some media there. And we went to the Iranian mission just last week and ask for a meeting and we were denied. We haven't heard anything from Iran. Again, our lawyer was not allowed in [to Tehran's Evin prison, where Sarah Shourd, Josh Fattal, and Shane Bauer are being held].

RFE/RL: Why did you have to go to London?

Hickey:
We wanted to go somewhere where there was an [Iranian] embassy, so we chose London. We actually sent two letters requesting a meeting. We got no response, so, Nora and I went last week at 10 o'clock in the morning and knocked on the door [of the Iranian Embassy in London] and asked to be seen. And someone finally did answer the door but a meeting was denied. They told us they couldn't help us.

RFE/RL: When was the last time you communicated with Shane?

Hickey:
I left him [in prison] May 21, the last I saw of Shane when he was loaded on to the elevator and the doors closed and that was the very last time I saw him. And at that moment I knew, you know -- I had no idea when I would see him again. We haven't talked to him, we haven't gotten a phone call. I think they are getting some of our letters, they're sending letters to us but we've never received any letters from them. When we met them in Tehran [May 21-22], they said that they have received some of our letters and they've also received some of the books we've sent, and that means the world to them because it's their only contact. Now, from what Shane told me, he's not receiving near the number of letters that I've sent because I sent letters several times a week and I have for a year.

RFE/RL: Laura [Fattal, mother of Josh Fattal], when was the last time you spoke to Josh?

Laura Fattal:
My husband spoke to Josh March 9 because he called the house line. We had no notice that he was calling us and we then understood Nora [Shourd] got a phone call from Sarah, and Nora said to the other families, "Beware, the kids may be calling." So, we called my husband and he transferred the house line to his business line so he can pick up at his work both phones, his work phone and his house phone. And Josh called 10 minutes later and said 'Hi, dad.' So, it was terrific. I have not spoken to Josh on the phone. I was happy though, of course, to meet Josh May 20 and 21 in Tehran.

RFE/RL: You will be speaking July 30 before the Permanent Mission of Iran to the United Nations, what are you going to say?

Fattal:
I'm going to say: "I miss my son, I love my son and Iran is holding Josh, Shane, and Sarah unjustifiably, it's unnecessary and it's unethical. And they should let him come home. And there is no reason he should be held, and he shouldn't be held August 1, 2009, and he should not be held July 30, 2010. This could've been solved in three hours or one day, and one year is outrageous."

RFE/RL: If things don't work out soon, do you plan to apply again for an Iranian visa and go back to see your children?

Nora Shourd, mother of Sarah Shourd:
You know, we're kind of torn about that and honestly, as much as we'd like to see our kids, we don't want to just keep going to see our kids, we want to get our kids released. So hopefully that's the next trip we're going to plan, not just going to visit them. You know, we always kind of look at things in a way that maybe something will lead to something else. The only thing that we've actually seen positively is -- if you could look at it one way, the fact that Amiri [eds. Iranian scientist Shahram Amiri, who returned to Iran earlier this month after surfacing in the Iranian interest section of the Pakistani Embassy in Washington] is back in Iran and kind of right before that, the Russian spies got released. These are not exactly the same kind of things that we hope are going to happen to get these kids out but they're kind of in the same category, so we hope that this will mean something. You know, these kind of things are very possible, very doable by governments.

RFE/RL: Is there any message you would like to pass to the Iranian authorities?

Shourd:
We really are asking at this point, we're asking the Iranian government to stop using our kids for political reasons. They have committed no crime. They haven't been charged with anything in more than a year. It's very, very obvious to the world now that they're only keeping them for political reasons. So we call upon them to live up to their own Islamic values and their own rule of law all of which they've pretty much bypassed or seem to have forgotten and to let our kids come home to their families. This is in their power to do, so we ask them to do that.
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by: Eddy from: Perth, Australia
July 30, 2010 14:35
Let me get this straight. Two men and a woman decide to go on a hike along the border of one of the most dangerous areas in the middle east, and when asked to explain themselves for illegaly entering a country, were not believed ?
Now c'mon folks, seriously, if I did the same thing in America and Mexico or even Canada and accidentaly strayed over the border, how would I be received by U.S. authorities ?
Keep in mind, today with GPS's and bloody good maps, you'd have to be a moron to 'stray' anywhere.
This story smells so high I wonder if the oil spill has contaminated it some.
These characters have a heap of serious explaining to do, and I for one, don't blame the Iranian authorities one bit.
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by: Banafsheh from: New York
July 30, 2010 21:34
Eddy,

Frankly your logic escapes me. EVEN IF these people were spies, or had explaining to do as you put it, don't you think that that should have been handled in a less pathetic way by the Iranian regime? Don't you think that sticking them in prison for a full year and using them as a bargaining chip to manipulate the world at large is obnoxious? Don't you think that there are CIVILIZED international standards that the regime in Tehran could have abided by in order address their charges? Frankly, it appears that you are not in the loop of what that regime does to us Iranians and has in store for the rest of the world. I'm a little amazed at your lack of objectivity here.
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by: George from: Milton
July 31, 2010 17:52
Yes - at least one of them was almost certainly a spy. Iran should still have to prove this, for all three of them, or release those they have no proof of spy activity on. Let's not forget it was the USA that initiated the new no trials no proof required era with Gitmo. When we all said the reason you don't treat people that way is so your citizens wont be treated the same way down the road. Well NOW is DOWN THE ROAD and here we are.

The quick solution? Well last time we had long gas lines around the block in the USA ans Iran holding hostages the problem was resolved by electing a Republican (in that case Reagan). So one can only speculate as to why we again have a Democrat in office and Iran holding hostages and Oil spills chills and thrills. Somebody Trillionaire rich and Saudi+Iranian powerful wants you to vote for their home boys and they will let go of your short hairs. GO ON vote Republican - it's not like the Dems are the lesser of two evils they are both TOTALLY dirty and you Yanks aren't smart enough to vote for people who aren;t in the two main crooked parties so WHY NOT? You're hosed either way so no big deal.
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by: Jean from: Fair Oaks, Ca.
July 31, 2010 19:50
Response to George:
Say What..what..what?
You mean that after reading that entire interview that you felt the need to bring it to a level that insults Americans intelligents and take shots at our government when the very message is that they are innocent in such issues.
as for your statement that undoubtably one of them is a spy....you really showed us all who the idiot is and he lives in Milton.
God Bless the 3 young adults held and their families.
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by: Jean from: fair Oaks, Ca.
July 31, 2010 19:41
Response to Eddy:
Yes you would be questioned if you crossed those borders but the point is that you would be on your way to your destination and probably given a bloody good map from those doing their job with a nice smile and pointed in the right direction to grab a good meal.....so you really sound as if you have no idea that a GPS would probably also have no signal where they were hiking. You should think it through before you say things the way you did; with no empathy what so ever. Than again you may just be that bloody cold!

by: dan from: NY, USA
July 30, 2010 17:53
One of the kid's family comes from that border region and they were seized inside Iraq. You are right this stinks - it's an Iranian political stink.
     
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