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Interview: Radicals Will Continue To Influence Serbian Orthodox Church

The new patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Bishop Irinej Gavrilovic of Nis
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The unexpected election of moderate Bishop Irinej Gavrilovic of Nis as the new patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church does not mean the influence of more radical priests, like Metropolitan Amfilohije of Montenegro, will subside. That's according to Milorad Tomanic, a Belgrade-based expert on the Orthodox Church and author of a recently published book, "The Serbian Church In the War, and The Wars Within It." RFE/RL's Podgorica correspondent, Dimitrije Jovicevic, spoke to Tomanic about the future role of the church in Serbia.

RFE/RL: What does the selection of Irinej of Nis say about the direction the church is headed in? Was it a step toward reform and openness? Will the focus be more on morals than ideology?

Milorad Tomanic:
As people keep saying, the patriarch isn't the pope. He has more honor than other priests, but not that much more power – certainly not the kind of power the pope has. And his influence both within the church and outside isn't that strong. His personality can set an example for people, to focus more on morals, to carry the church into more peaceful times. We can only hope for this.

Three conditions have to be met in order for this to happen. The first is that the bishops keep to their oaths. In particular, I'm talking about the Jeeps and German cars with their tinted windows [that many use for their transportation]. This can all be done without being so flashy.

The next is that they reform their own relations amongst themselves, which should be much better than they are.

And the third thing is that some people who were prominent in the 1990s – the main players in Serbia and elsewhere – have to withdraw from the scene. By that I mean primarily Metropolitan Amfilohije [of Montenegro] and [Bosnian Serb Bishop Vasilije] Kacavenda.

What brought doubt into my heart and my soul was a web video I saw showing the newly chosen patriarch holding hands with Bishop Vasilije, who is looking confident, as though the patriarch belongs to him. This could just be my own fear. Still, I hope that the church is sailing into calmer waters.

RFE/RL: Will the church be able to pacify its radical Bosnian members, who are led by Bishop Vasilije? There's a YouTube clip of him that has become quite popular, showing him giving chauvinist, almost war-mongering speeches. Is the church ready to objectively assess the role it played in the Balkan wars of the '90s, and acknowledge that it may be contributing to similar unrest in the future?

Tomanic:
That's why I felt wary when I saw the video of Vasilije walking hand-in-hand with Irinej after he was chosen to be the new patriarch. I even thought that perhaps Vasilije was the one who made it possible for Irinej to be elected patriarch, by using the votes from the Bosnian lobby. The bishops will say that he was chosen by the Holy Spirit. But doubts always exist. There's always talk of authorities influencing the choice of patriarch. I think this is a big question, and I don't expect any big solutions in that respect.

RFE/RL: Amfilohije, the metropolitan of Montenegro, was considered one of the key contenders for the patriarchal post. What kind of role and influence do you envision him having in the church now?

Tomanic:
Amfilohije was one of the key figures in the church in the '90s and beyond. We can say a lot of good things about him; I really don't want to be one-sided. He's a polyglot. He's extremely knowledgeable about all things related to the teachings of the church. But he's one of those people who refuses to stick to his areas of expertise. He also has to have hobbies. And for him, politics is a hobby.

I think that he'll continue to have a strong influence on the church. Everything he's gotten his hands on – whether on behalf of Serbs in Bosnia, Serbs in Croatia, or Serbs in Kosovo – has failed. Everything has fallen through. He talked about Serbia and Montenegro staying together as one state. Nothing came of that.

I think it would be good – I dream about this – if he and some of the other bishops just go to Serbia's Sveta Gora monastery and spend their last years there, giving us great works on theology, the things they know well, and leaving politics to those who are softer and more willing to compromise.
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by: Djordje from: Novi Sad
January 27, 2010 22:44
It will be unfortunate if the radicals continue thier influence. They have brought great harm upon the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Orthodox religion and the Serbian people. We need a shephard not a warlord to lead us. We must look at what our religious leaders did during the past war and say that is not the way we want them to lead us. We want peace.

by: Milos
January 28, 2010 11:01


We want peace.
And we want kosovo back

by: Political Dissident
January 28, 2010 11:05
Useful idiots for anti-Serb propaganda are definitely not needed for Serbia's best interests.

RFE/RL seems to exempt features on the nationalist extremism evident among some Croat Catholics and Bosnian Muslims.

by: klara from: dubai
January 30, 2010 17:01
Serbian Orthodox church must reform once for all if Serbia and Serbs want to live peaceful, non-nationalistic, non-chouvinistic and better standard of democratic lives. The Church must care about the church and spiritual issues, not the politics. And Kosovo will never get back as Serbian state and the Church did not give a damn for Kosovo people, development, culture and education for for almost a hundred years. The only thing they did care for was pure territory, power, and unequal treatment towards Albanian people there. That is why it has lost Kosovo for ever and now it is up to Kosovo people regardless of its ethnicity to get it developed and to prove the world that it does deserve the European membership and values to be used. Balkan people should start once for all looking at the future, and to the past and they should stop once for all living their lives based on myths, propaganda and use of power over the others.

by: German from: united states
January 31, 2010 00:19
The people tend to forget that it was NOT Serb nor the Serbian Church that destroyed 700 historical religious churches in Kosovo. It was the KLA enraged Albanian extremist portion of the population, urged on by the United States and NATO.

by: Srbin from: america
February 01, 2010 17:11
People like Milorad Tomanic are bought and sold daily. he has no interest for Srbija, only for himself. Progressing doesn't mean selling out your culture, your history nor your Faith. It doesn't mean letting terrorist take illegally and you allowing this to happen with no repercussion, Djordje if our forefathers didn't fight we would have been muslim today...Thank God they fought!

by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney Australia
February 03, 2010 12:13
Klara from Duba...

Re your comment...<<<The Church must care about the church and spiritual issues, not the politics.>>>

I am all for separation between Church and State.

Do tell though, how clean is the saparation in any Islamic state? From what I read and hear religion and poltics are on and the same.

That is why you will find religious police patrolling streets of Islamic cities. And why Anwar Ibrahim is beign teied for sodomy in Malaysia for the second time!!

By these standards, the government/politics and the Serbian Orthodox Church are saparated by a chasm the size of the Grand Canyon. In any case, the primary concern of the Serbain church is the spiritual and cultural wellbeing of its flock. When Serbain lives and culture of Serbs are threatened e.g. ancient monasteries being razed to the ground, as they constantly are in Kosovo and Bosnia, the Church has the moral right to speak out and alert the world of injustices. That is not politics, it is human rights.





by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney Australia
February 03, 2010 12:21
Political dissdent.

You are on the mark with your observations. You have to choose your words very carefully if you want a comment to be posted if it reflects poorly on Croats or Muslims, particularly their dirty deeds during WW2 or the more recent wars. Meanwhile demonising Serbs has become the norm and derogatory comments are always allowed to be posted.

There is selective ani-Serb bias on this website.

by: Abdul Majid
February 06, 2010 23:05
"ancient monasteries being razed to the ground, as they constantly are in Kosovo and Bosnia..."
Would you be so kind to enlighten me, you champion of serbdom, which monasteries are being conatantly razed in Bosnia? And if the Serbs finally allow the mosques in Foca and in Banja Luka to be rebuilt, and contribute to that, instead of letting us pay for it, then we can talk.
And what about the priests who blessed the "Skorpioni", the other Chetniks and their weapons "for they were fighting the good fight, against the enemies of the faith? In what are they better than the Taliban?
And don't come with the way non-Muslism are being treated in Saudi Arabia. It has nothing to do with Bosnia and is NO JUSTIFICATION Whatsoever to deny the Bosniaks their right to exist as Muslims, or at all! And if you don't like the way non-Muslims are treated in Muslim countries: 1.) Muslims are treated as second-class people in most Western countries (less in the USA than in Europe. A minaret or hijab ban would be unthinkable there.) 2.) nobody is forcing you to live in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, so what is it to you? and 3.) if you object to it, please feel free to protest to the relevant governments and embassies, but DO NOT come up with that here as a pretext and justification why Bosniaks must be brought to their knees, exterminated, exiled or destroyed. Mladic failed at that, and by politicking Dodik will not succeed at it either, nor will those of your ilk by constantly bad-mouthing them or drawing in far-fetched pretexts. Your constant bad-mouthing of all who opposed Milosevic's Greater Serb adventurism, and your constant saying "they were Ustase and Nazis in WWII; so we Serbs have a right to take revenge on their descendants" only shows that you are just as vile, morally rotten, foul and evil as Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic.
"Ima i bice Bosna i Bosnjaca u njoj. Bili su prije vas, i ako Bog da bice su i poslije vas"

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