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Is Former Yugoslavia Stuck On The Sand Dune Of History?

The regional conference on the European future of the Western Balkans in Slovenia on March 20
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By Charles Crawford
Earlier this month, Slovenia hosted a summit of leaders from across the former Yugoslavia. The event was intended to demonstrate that Slovenia, as a full European Union member, with Croatia, as the country closest to membership, could show other countries of the region the European way forward -- and lead them there.

President Boris Tadic of Serbia turned down his invitation in protest at the presence of Kosovo as a full member of the conference. Senior EU representation was modest. The prime minister of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Nikola Spiric (a Serb), did attend, but he walked out when Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci spoke. This has prompted a new row in Bosnia: On what authority did Spiric make that gesture?

This conference was a lugubrious occasion that emphasized differences rather than renewed shared purpose. It compels us to look at a worrying question: Is the former Yugoslavia region facing a new round of division and animosity?

Perhaps. This is because two central questions have never been decisively answered.

Did political reconciliation in post-World War II Yugoslavia depend on an implicit understanding that the horrible interethnic violence of World War II could be put to one side as long as minority communities in the different republics had the wider security of living under a single Yugoslav roof?

If not, how could democracy and minority rights across the former Yugoslav space be guaranteed without creating mainly monoethnic polities?

Partition Or Natural Expression?

The Kosovo case exemplifies the problem. Is Kosovo's independence an ethnic partition of a democratic European state, or is it a natural expression of self-determination by Kosovo Albanians? If Kosovars can vote to break with Serbia, why can't northern Kosovo Serbs vote to break with Kosovo, or Bosnia's Serbs vote to break with Bosnia?

The philosophical complexities of all this come to a head in a new specific constitutional conundrum in Sarajevo: how to elect the Bosnian Presidency?

The new BH constitution as incorporated in the 1995 Dayton Peace Accords used the clumsy precedent from communist Yugoslavia of a "collective" presidency: a Bosniak and a Croat elected from the Federation entity, and a Serb elected from Republika Srpska.

The European Court of Human Rights has now ruled -- rightly -- that this discriminates against Bosnian citizens who describe themselves as Jews or even Bosnians. But how to devise something better?

Republika Srpska leader Milorad Dodik proposes a simple, ostensibly nonethnic formula: the collective presidency should have one "person" from Republika Srpska and two from the federation. That sounds reasonable enough. Yet as Mr. Dodik well knows, that formula works against the Bosnian Croats who could end up with no presidency member. If some sort of ethnic identity is factored in to ensure that Bosniaks, Serbs, and Croats each get one presidency member, what about Bosnians or other people of mixed ethnicity? Should a fourth presidency member slot be created just for them?

Ganic Test


Meanwhile, a new front has been opened in the ongoing dispute over the origins of the Bosnian conflict and, by implication, the logic of the Dayton settlement. Former BH Presidency member Ejup Ganic has been arrested in London under a request from Belgrade for his extradition to Serbia on war crimes charges. This relates to an infamous episode in 1992, when forces loyal to then-Bosnia and Herzegovina Presidency member Alija Izetbegovic attacked at point-blank range a convoy of Yugoslav Army troops attempting to leave Sarajevo under the UN flag.

If Bosnia cannot get the extradition request struck down on procedural/technical grounds (such as jurisdiction or lapse of time), the case could see a prolonged legal battle reminiscent of the campaign in 1998-2000 over Spain's attempt to secure the extradition of former President Augusto Pinochet.

The Bosniak/Muslim community is angry that the British government is (as they see it) hiding behind legal formalisms, allowing Belgrade to "relativize" the origins of the Bosnia conflict and encourage Serbs who question the logic of Bosnia existing within its current borders.

Ganic's arrest is all the more infuriating for Sarajevo as the trial of Radovan Karadzic moves into the substantive phase, with Karadzic weirdly intoning that the Bosniaks started the war and that the Serb response was "just and holy." Let Serbia make its feeble case on justice for war crimes against Serbs, say the Bosniaks -- but only after Serbia comes to the issue with clean hands, above all honestly confronting the war crime at Srebrenica and handing over fugitive General Ratko Mladic to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia.

Unhappily for Sarajevo, both Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina as independent states have signed up to mutual European extradition arrangements. Serbia is entitled to launch proceedings to have Mr. Ganic extradited from London to Belgrade on such serious charges, which Sarajevo has shown no willingness to investigate. The United Kingdom has no real choice but to let the legal procedures take their course.

'Ethnic Disarmament'

Is today's Bosnia therefore even more vulnerable than yesterday's doomed Yugoslavia? After nearly five decades of "brotherhood and unity," the Yugoslav ideal did have resonance and popular support separate from the feuding between the republics and their greedy leaders. Bosnia, by contrast, has no political force championing a Bosnian ideal, open to all.

Izetbegovic once told me that it would take 50 years before Bosniaks dared risk "ethnic disarmament." Bosniak politicians don't lose votes by loudly damning "Serb" provocations and hypocrisy. But by making that the main message, and insisting that only their definition of Bosnia is legitimate, they make it too easy for Bosnian Serbs to argue that there is not enough common ground to build Bosnia successfully.

Bosniak leaders have also made a serious mistake in not adopting dynamic free-market policies and pushing for a prosperous, inclusive Bosnia from which Serbs too would benefit. Republika Srpska Prime Minister Dodik is emboldened, challenging the authority of the high representative and suggesting that the two entities in Bosnia "accept the inevitable" and consider an "amicable divorce."

EU Policies 'Balkanized'

Faced with all these disagreements and more across the region -- and within its own ranks over recognition of Kosovo and the name of Macedonia -- the European Union makes the best of a bad job and presses for integration across the region, and between the region and the rest of Europe.

Not without success. At the political level, there is no serious alternative to the borders which now exist, give or take special arrangements of some sort for Northern Kosovo in due course. Kosovo is steadily gaining international recognition. Belgrade's delaying tactics are annoying but incoherent.

Even Bosnia's tiresome divisions may look less damaging if the European Union finally insists on wholesale deregulation and dynamic business-friendly economic policies as a precondition to Bosnia's EU membership. Economic and other integration is quietly gaining momentum across the "Yugosphere" with each passing year. It should be actively supported and made a major theme.

That said, the European Union's own policies are "Balkanized." It is time to reorganize the confusing set of authorities and policies dealing with Bosnia, Kosovo, and Macedonia. These arrangements need to be brought together under a single powerful team which oversees progress towards EU membership. This would not solve everything, but it should give intelligent but flexible consistency and thereby restore authority to the European effort, which in Bosnia in particular is declining.

If that does not happen, the former Yugoslavia could end up stranded on the steep sand dune of history, unable to climb upward to the green grass of full EU membership or move sideways to a better place without slipping far back down the slope.

Above all, the weary populations concerned do not need a massive legal battle in London over Ejup Ganic, a battle which revisits the origins of the collapse of Yugoslavia and what happened thereafter amid mutual recriminations: "My just and holy war crime was self-defense!" "My war crime was also self-defense -- and it was much smaller than yours, so it doesn't count."

Charles Crawford served as a British diplomat in the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and subsequently as HM ambassador in Sarajevo and Belgrade. He now writes about Balkan and other diplomatic issues at www.charlescrawford.biz. The views expressed in this commentary are his own, and do not necessarily reflect those of RFE/RL
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by: rick from: milan
March 26, 2010 14:03
""""""""if Kosovars can vote to break with Serbia, why can't northern Kosovo Serbs vote to break with Kosovo, or Bosnia's Serbs vote to break with Bosnia?"""""""""

why can't Abkazian , south ossethian , transnistrian
vote to break ?

Because they don't want to enjoy Nato , is simply !
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by: ivan from: usa
March 27, 2010 01:02
if serbs of northern kosovo want to secede,why can't hungarians of vojvodina do the same,or bosniaks of sandzak,or albanians of presheva valley?
what's goose for the goose is good for the gander.
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by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney, Australia
April 01, 2010 23:34
Ivan from USA

Hungarians represent 3% of Serbia's population. By this measure Texas, should now be independent or a part of Mexico. Florida should be an independent state of Cuba. But don't worry, this reality will come your way soon enough.

And by the same measure, Serbs in Bosnia should be allowed to secede. Serbs in Croatia's Krajina region should have been allowed to secede, but instead under Operation Storm 250,000 of them were expelled from their ancestral homes where they had lived for centuries, reducing Serbian population in Croatia to less than 4%, compared to >50% in 1940.

Serbia today has the highest number of displaced person of any country in Europe. Some 800,000 Serbs have been driven out of their homes in Slavonia, Krajina, Kosovo and Bosnia. What you are advocating is for more ethnic cleansing of Serbs from their ancestral homes to accommodate the whims of chauvinists.


by: Daren from: USA
March 26, 2010 19:23
The problem that Bosnia and Herzegovina has been facing is same problem that former Yugoslavia was facing. Ones when ethnic Serbs, ethnic Croats and ethnic Muslims (Bosniaks) separate the situation in Bosnia will start to improve. International community is artificially trying to keep them together and as long as that is the case there is not going to be a true peace in Balkans. The History of the Balkans can not be ignored.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 03, 2010 10:53
NO! The only option is to reunify Bosnia and Herzegovina! SInce during teh war about 30% of the Armija BiH (not teh "Muslim army" nor the "SDA army" as your master Karadzci blabs) were Bosnian Serbs, so there should be a number of Bosnian Serbs who do not object to a unified Bosnia. And all others are free to go East of the Drina where they belong! Like Germany had to give up Silesia and East Prussia after 1945, and that was not "stolen Polish and Russian land being returned to its rightful owners" but had been German for over 700 years! And don't call me a Nazi! Most Germans do not care for the return of those territories: And don't even dream of Serbia getting back Kosovo or legitimizing its conquest in Bosnia! With what are you going to do that? Do you think that just because the ICJ says so (which it won't anyway; it will issue a wishy-washy noncommital declaration trying to satisfy both parts which will give both of them right and make the squabble go on forever) the Kosovars and the Bosniaks will submit to Serb misrule again? NEVER! There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that that happens! And Serbia will be accepted into the circle of civilized nati0ns only if it gives up militarism, chauvinism, expansionism and interference in Bosnian affairs! And not one minute before! And if it doesn't it will remain a rogue country, full of rogues!

by: Brazilian Man from: São Paulo - SP, Brazil
March 27, 2010 00:26
The biggest problem in Bosnia and Serbia is that the Serb elites that formed the upper political-military-ecclesiastical caste in both Yugoslavias (the Royal and the Communist) don’t accept the results of the dissolution of their former mini-empire and subsequent privileges.

And the best solution for Bosnia is the scrapping of all the ethno-babble altogether, with ONE person as president, ONE person as prime minister and ONE parliament with real authority over ALL the country, as the same that happens nowadays with Croatia, Serbia and even the multi-ethnic and multi-religious republic of Montenegro.

by: Bill Webb from: Phoenix, AZ, U.S.A.
March 27, 2010 17:43
Most of the countries of this region had an artificial identity for so long that the people don't seem to know what is required to be an independent political entity. First and foremost is International recognition, and it must be capable of standing the test of time. It's not for the "me" generation.

by: Abdulmajid
March 28, 2010 17:00
Very well said Mr Crawford! I just read your other article "We are all victims of this Perfect Crime" and I think it is no coincidence that those who have done teh greatest harm in former Yugoslavia are former Communists. But those who weren't Communistst like Radovan Karadzic are just as bad or much worse. As long as the Greater Serb ideology of land grab and ethnic cleansing is around, the region, and especially Bosnia-Herzegovina has no perspective and no future. Some may argue that the Bosnian Serbs have as much right as anybody to declare independence. But since their so-called state was not established by consensus but founded on ethnic cleansing and genocide, that can't be allowed to happen, because then we would have the law of the jungle, the right of the stronger. And Muslims worldwide will understand that against them, anything goes. Besides that the Boswnian Serbs think they achived a clear military victory over the Bosniaks and are therefore entitled to keep the spoils of war, but that is not so, because the Bosniaks are still there, the Western powers imposed a draw, which has left behind an unresolved situation. This can't go on forever, and the Bosniaks will not be turned into the Palestinians of Europe, into a lesser people, a nation without a country. And may all those who try meet a sticky end.

by: Merolanna from: London
March 30, 2010 11:49
Abdulmajid! You make a good point that Western powers have imposed a draw on the fighters in the Balkans... They did the same thing in the Caucasus - Western powers refused to accept outcome on battlefields in Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh, punished the winners and encouraged the losers to believe that diplomacy can undo battlefield results.

We should ask ourselves whether this was wise. Can we really expect the winner of a war to give up what they have won? And do we really do good for those people in Georgia or Azerbaijan who believe that a peace process can win back what was lost on battlefield? Sadly only conclusion from this line of thought is that only war will win back what was lost before... Saakashvili already demonstrated risks of such approach...

Could it better to insist that we can recognize new states, like we did in Kosovo, but on condition that they create a political space for displaced people? War has always been a crucible for new state formation and the end of older, dysfunctional polities - why are we in denial of this basic historical truth, that always worked in the west, but now somehow we expect some different standards from the east??
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by: Abdulmajid
March 30, 2010 17:43
Why, yes of course they must create a space for displaced people. What good would it do to antagonize all the Bosnian Serbs and Croats so they would al move out or have to be chased out of Bosia? in what woudl teh Bosniaks be better. But then, consider this: inteh Armija BiH there were about 30% or so Bosnian Serb soldiers and one of their highest commanders Jovan Divjak is an ethnic Serb too. There are Serbs and Croats who wouldstand for a unifed Bosnia and of course it would not do to establish a unified Bosnia in which they are discriminated against. But the problem is that they can say as often as tehy want that their do not intend to create an Islamic republic, a second Iran in which non-Muslims would be second-class citizens. The Serbofascists will ALWAYS come with that fallacy, and in our wonderful Islamophobioc times this falls on ripe ground with allIslamophobes worldwide. But they will not win with microphones, web postings and newspapers what they could not win with tanks and guns, and the numerical superiority actually favors the Bosniaks. Even so they can only obtain good results if they move fast enough not to allow the connivance of certain western powers with their enemies (on grounds of Islamophobia) to come into play.

by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney, Australia
March 31, 2010 12:23
Since when did Muslims in Bosnia become Bosniaks and the rest of its citizens Serbs or Croats.

The region's name is Bosnia and Hercegovina. Bosniak? An English word. Some people are poorly informed.

I predict that very soon, Muslims will follow the Croatian (Hrvatska to be mose exact) model and begin to invent new words to distance themselves or more to the point to differentiate themselves linguistically from Serbs. An attempt to dilute the histirical fact that Serbs were the dominant etnic group in Bosnia for more than a millenium. Maybe they will begin to speak Arabic or some other language. Such is their distate of Serbs.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 01, 2010 19:51
Bosniaks = Bosnijaci. In teh Middle Ages Bosnjani. In Turkish Bosnali or Bosnevi. Whom are you trying to fool?
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by: Abdulmajid
April 01, 2010 20:14
Just so you know sirivanhohoho, the language spoken in Serbia has even more Turkish loanwords like "peskir" or "sapka" than the one spoken in Bosnia. And I have an extensive collection of music from the whole Balkans, and what can I tell you, many songs from Serbia or which the Serbs claim as theirs sound even more Turkish than most Bosnian ones.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 01, 2010 22:08
Sirivanhohoho, what the chetnik army of Ratko Mladic could not accomplish with tanks, guns, bombs, rocket, nerve gas, mass murder, mass rape and wholesale destruction and expulsion, namely to erase Bosnia-Herzegovina off the map, you will certainly not accomplish with hate speech, hate mongering, Bosniak-baiting, Muslim bashing and blabbing Karadzic's line. And Dodik will not achieve that either through his malicious intriguing and maneuvers. Why don't you rather fool around in your garden instead of offending honest people whose only fault it was to be in the Serbs' way?

by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney, Australia
April 01, 2010 13:53
The reason why the West and Muslims use Srebrenica as the not so blunt instrument with which to punish Serbs can be found at the link below.

http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/warning.shtml

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by: Abdulmajid
April 01, 2010 22:03
Ha ha ha! serbianna. C'mon man you must be joking! What next? Should I believe what Nebojsa Malic has to say? Or Milivoje Ivanisevic? Then I could just swallow the whole Karadzic babble, hook line and sinker. Do you take me for a complete idiot? No, don't answer that one. I know you do. Well, same for you.
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by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney, Australia
April 03, 2010 22:54
Focus on the message, not the messenger. Serbianna is one of the few websites one can go to to find the Serbian point of view.

You can stick your head in the sand and you can pretend those atrocities are not true and they never happened. But they did happen.

The photographs provide more proof of Muslim atrocities towards Serbs, than anything you have peddled to prove the mystical numbers about the Srebrenica genocide.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 07, 2010 23:32
That Serbs have suffered at the hands of the non-Serbs is undoubtedly so, but since it is not presented out of an idea of reconciliation but always in bad faith, malice and with the intention to smear, delegitimize and dehumanize the Bosniaks and the Albanians, in order to achieve Greater Serb aims and to legitimize the Serb beachhead in Bosnia, it is not acceptable. Besides that it is not the same. Serbs, Bosniaks , Croats and Kosovo Albanians never had the same aims and goals, so they can never be considered equally guilty as the Serbofascists would have it. Bosniaks and Albanians never killed as many civilian noncombatants as the Serbs did, they did not target civilains as the Serbs did and they never wanted to drive the Serbs out of the land. Whatever evil happened to the Serbs is their own doing. I only feel pity for those Serbs who were true non-combatants, who do not share the dream of Greater Serbia, who reject chauvinism and militarism and adventurism. All others do not have my sympathy. Quite the contrary,and rightfully so. They have resigned from the human race, they are monsters. Like you. And dismiss this as "babble" so much as you want, sirivanhohoho, you are not going to win the Serbs Greater Serbia. The day will come when I, or if it need be my great-grandchildren will write to you, or to your great grandchildren that the nightmare of Greater Serbia is finished for good.
This only for the information of the many simple souls out there who don't know better. And that you address your lies and half-truths at me personally sirivanhohoho, is insulting. Do you do it to taunt me? For you know perfectly well there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that I will believe your clumsy Karadzic propaganda lies and come over to your side. Rather be dead than take upon me this disgrace.
And please be so kind, tell me, why do you hate Bosniaks so much? What did a Bosniak, or for that matter, a Muslim ever do to you personally? Call you bad names in school perhaps?
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by: Abdulmajid
April 06, 2010 08:53
The photographs you are talking about are those of murdered Bosniaks, of which the Serbofascists say they show murdered Serbs! The brazenness of it is unbelievably disgusting. And I have told you often enough, sirivanhohoho, what with you not even being Serb, if Bosniaks have never done anything to you personally, SHUT UP AND STAY OUT OF IT!!! I wish you would fall into the hands of the Bosniaks, especially the Mothers of Srebrenica and that they would spit in your face.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 07, 2010 23:31
The Serb point of view? But we know that already. It goes something like this: "Wherever there are Serb graves, wherever Serb blood was spilled, wherever Serbs live or have lived or wish to live, that is Serbia. And all points in between too. And it is therefore right and justified to kill and expel all those who are not Serbs and to eliminate all trace of their presence there so they may never claim this for their own. Especially Slavic Muslims, as we consider them Islamicized Serbs who became traitors to their race and religion and it is therefore "just and holy" to eliminate their descendants. By all and any means. And to justify us before ourselves and to give ourselves a morally satisfying explanation that will allay our bad consciences we'll just say that we defended ourselves, that we had to punish the turncoats, and since we are of the opinion that Islam is evil anyway we are doing the whole world a service if we sell our anti-Bosniak and anti-Kosovo Albanian genocidal crusade as part of the 'war against international terorism'. And since the rest of teh world are stupid, naive and evil of course they are against us but the saintly Serb nation will establish Greater Serbia so that all Serbs can live in freedom and peace in one state and of course we do not intend to commit genocide on the Muslims. We will just kill their menfolk; and if their women then can't have any children, oh yes, they will, we will make them. And then they are free to go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia. But they will live, so where is the genocide? Bosnia was a Christian Serb Orthodox land because we say so. The Bosniaks are guilty of starting the war because they did not voluntarily submit to their peaceful transfer to Turkey or the Middle East and thus the liquidation of their community in Bosnia. It is all their fault." That is the Serb viewpoint on Milosevic's genocidal anti-Muslim war, and we know it since Radovan Karadzic threatened the Bosniaks with destruction if they dared oppose the establishment of Greater Serbia (now disguised as the "preservation of Yugoslavia" but that does not deceive anyone.) Nor does your childish notion that by leaving the women and children (barely) alive you have exonerated yourselves from committing genocide. You have not,because there are no more Bosniaks in the zone you conquered. But the Serbofascists have not conquered the Bosniaks, not with tanks and planes and rockets and bombs and even nerve gas. Not with the third most powerful military force in Europe could they triumph over the Bosniaks who only had one AK-47 to 3 men, and mostly only homemade or hunting rifles or World War II and even World War I-vintage weapons from the museum, and knives, and even just bows and arrows-and courage! You will not triumph over them now with deceit and invective and microphones and cheap populist demagoguery, and most certainly not with a scrap of paper. They also could not keep Kosovo with the third largest army in Europe and are not going to get it back with a scrap of paper; even though I don't think anybody who holds real clout will issue them such a paper. Not against the will of the absolute majority of the people. Which was absolute even before their attempt at genocide (that is why they started it to begin with, to destroy that majority.) If they do, it will be all wishy-washy, a muddy compromise from with both sides can draw the same legitimation, that is, none at all.

by: Quito
April 03, 2010 21:30
Its difficult to support western policies in former Yugoslavia area. Why can Kosovo get independent from Serbia, and serbian northern kosovo cant do the same? why can Bosnia get independent from Jugoslavia and R. Sprska cant do the same? Why USA and its allies support the self determination of kosovars and they dont concede the same right to abkhasians or ossetians? why some separatism are good and others which are just the same are bad? Of course some will speak about values, freedom, progress, democracy, etc, but its clear that behind all these questions there are only geostrategic interests.
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by: Abdulmajid
April 06, 2010 08:49
Serbs commitetd genocide against non-Serbs. Bosniaks and Kosovars NEVER committed genocide against Serbs! That is why! To Hell with Greater Serbia! And all those diaspora serbs out there should SHUT UP! If you are nowhere near the territory concerned, sweep in your own backyard!
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by: sirivanhoe98 from: Sydney Australia
April 07, 2010 13:07
Well said. You should heed your own words and go back from where you came from!! Bosnia & Herzegovina would have been much more peaceful.

by: Abdulmajid
April 07, 2010 23:32
Is Former Yugoslavia stuck on the sand dune of history? Most definitely yes. And as long as its political leaders, especially Dodik, only wish to perpetuate themselves in power, line their pockets, steal the peoples' money, and cover up their misdeeds by fearmongering and hatemongering; as long as a majority of Serbs wishes Greater Serb expansionst aims to be pursued, and continues to stand for militarism and chauvinism; as long as the Ilija Garasanin-Nikola Pasic-Draza Mihajlovic-Dobrica Cosic-Vojislav Seselj-Radovan Karadzic evil Serborthodox fascist spirit is alive, as long as Ratko Mladic is kept hidden underground (for future use and reference for the next round of anti-Bosniak ethnic cleansing that is surely in the making); as long as Bosniaks and Albanians are restricted from traveling abroad but their non-Muslim neighbors are not; as long as convicted Serb war criminals are treated with such leniency and indulgence by the ICTY as Biljana Plavsic is; as long as British and French politicians continue to connive with those who still want to create Greater Serbia (or at least keep the Bosniaks and Kosovo Albanians in limbo and under the thumb), as long as the answer to only one of these questions is yes, it will remain so!
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