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Karadzic Opens His Defense As War Crimes Trial Resumes

A video grab shows Radovan Karadzic as he defends himself at his war crimes trial in The Hague today.
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By Ron Synovitz
Radovan Karadzic told the UN war crimes tribunal today that Bosnian Serbs in the early 1990s were defending themselves against Islamic fundamentalists who were trying to claim Bosnia during the breakup of Yugoslavia.

Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb wartime leader, is accused of the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II. He made the remarks during his opening defense statement in his war crimes trial in The Hague.

He said Serbs were the first victims of violence in Bosnia -- killed by Muslims who had "blood up to their shoulders" -- and insisted that the conduct of Bosnian Muslims "gave rise to our conduct."

The International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) has indicted Karadzic on 11 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity -- including two counts of genocide -- for acts he is alleged to have committed during the 1992-1995 Bosnian war.

Karadzic is alleged to have orchestrated the 1992-1995 siege of Sarajevo and the 1995 massacre at the Muslim enclave of Srebrenica -- then a UN safe zone -- where Bosnian Serb forces killed some 8,000 unarmed men and boys.

'Greatness Of A Small Nation'

If convicted, Karadzic faces possible life imprisonment. Karadzic has denied all the charges. He told the court today that his defense will show how Bosnian Serbs were persecuted by Muslims for 500 years.

"I stand here before you not to defend the mere mortal that I am," he said, "but to defend the greatness of a small nation in Bosnia-Herzegovina which for 500 years has had to suffer and has demonstrated a great deal of modesty and perseverance to survive in freedom."

Karadzic said he would not try to defend himself by claiming that he wasn't important or that he did not occupy an important post as president of the Bosnian Serb wartime government.

"I will defend that nation of ours and their cause, which is just and holy, and in that way I shall be able to defend myself too -- and my nation -- because we have a good case," he said.

Karadzic then argued that the Balkan wars of the 1990s were not caused by the policies and intentions of Serbs or Bosnian Serbs, but rather, by the drive for sovereignty and independence by the Croatian and the Bosnian Muslim leadership.

He accused Germany and "Western diplomatic ineptitude" for encouraging the breakup of Yugoslavia -- and thus, "making civil war inevitable" -- by "prematurely recognizing" the independence of Croatia and Slovenia.

'Supreme Commander'

Prosecutor Alan Tieger said in his opening statement in October of last year that it was Karadzic, as "supreme commander" of Bosnian Serbs, who orchestrated the worst bloodbath in Europe since World War II -- part of a campaign to destroy the Muslim and Croat communities in eastern Bosnia.

"This case, your honors, is about that supreme commander -- a man who harnessed the forces of nationalism, hatred and fear to implement his vision of an ethnically separated Bosnia," Tieger said.

Karadzic responded to those charges today by saying that Bosnian Serbs were claiming "their own territories." He said: "It was never an intention, never any idea let along a plan, to expel Muslims and Croats" from the autonomous Republika Srpska.

Karadzic boycotted the opening of his trial four months ago, prompting the court to temporarily suspend the case. The judges appointed a veteran British defense attorney, Richard Harvey, to represent Karadzic if he was deemed to again be "obstructing" the proceedings.

Despite legal training, Karadzic has opted to represent himself at the UN court. He has refused to cooperate with Harvey and pleaded for a delay until June because he "could not benefit" from his court-appointed lawyer.

But on February 26, the court's three-judge tribunal dismissed Karadzic's request to adjourn the trial until the summer. The judges rejected Karadzic's argument, saying that his refusal to collaborate with Harvey "is a decision made by him and for which he must therefore bear the consequences."

Karzadzic today said he is appealing that decision. He also repeated his argument that he has not had enough time to study more than 1 million pages of trial documents -- 415,000 pages submitted by the prosecution since last October alone.

"We have good evidence and proof. And if I am given sufficient time and resources to prepare my defense, I shall be able to do so and it will be to our advantage," he said.

"Therefore, the only thing that I expect here is to be given the opportunity to have a well-prepared defense and to present my case here in a proper manner to show you the substance and crux of this matter and everything that hasn't been uncovered yet and hasn't been realized."

Protesters Rally

Outside of the tribunal today, women whose men folk were killed in the Srebrenica massacre protested against Karadzic and called for the court not to allow him to delay the proceedings. Among them was Melina Haziselimovic, from a group called the Mothers of Srebrenica Association.

"We are here today to tell the whole world that victims are still alive and we are waiting for the truth and for justice and that we, the victims of genocide, are looking for truth, are looking for justice," Haziselimovic said.

Suada Kapic is a Sarajevo-based artist who kept a day-to-day documentation of the Sarajevo siege by collecting maps, newspaper accounts, photographs, public documents, and oral histories. She told RFE/RL's Balkan Service that through her project, she has learned how people are able to survive in a state of terror, 24 hours a day. 

"What is very important to know is that the people of Sarajevo for four years became professionals in the field of survival, which is very important to know in modern times in the world, because we know how we are treating climate changes, natural catastrophes, and terror attacks," Kapic says. "And we could pass our knowledge from our very tough times from the siege of Sarajevo about how to survive terrible conditions and to stay human beings."

Prosecutors have been ordered to present their first witness on March 3.

The UN Security Council, which set up the ICTY in 1993, has ordered it not to open new cases. The tribunal has indicted 161 political and military officials. Some 40 cases are still continuing.

Two men are fugitives and could still be brought to trial in The Hague. They are Karadzic's former top general, Ratko Mladic, and Croatian Serb leader Goran Hadzic.
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by: Alexandre Kappaun from: Brazil
March 01, 2010 23:51
To use the past as an excuse for wrongdoings in the present, such as Karadzic is doing, is to not have a compromise with the future. It is ridiculous to say that the killings of Muslims were the result of 500 years of history. A political leader should have known better than that!!!

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 09:58
Karadzic is only grandstanding for the folks back home. And he says only that what all the serbofascists are saying too all the time and which we have heard a million times, nothing new here, but that does not make it a bit true. What we see is nothing but a rehash of the Milosevic trial, and I suspect the ICTY will botch up this one too. Why? Because they are a bunch of bumbling, blundering, bungling fools? Not likely (even though Napoleon or the Japanese Navy in WW II displayed an incredible stubbornness to learn which in the end cost them dearly.) No, it is rather because, as the whole Bosnian war shows, quite a lot of the European leadership along with the bigots believe that Europe is a Christian club and should stay that way, that Muslims only can live in Europe as a subdued, underprivileged underclass "or they will create the Eurabian Caliphate!" Hence, their standpoints go something like this "OK, we can't hide the fact that the Bosniaks (they don't say Bosniaks, they say Bosnian Muslims; defining a people by its religion) were the most wronged party in the war, but for the sake of maintianing our Christian Europe we must never give them their rights, at best we should just pretend that we do." Hence, no lifting of the visa barrier for Bosniaks. Hence, offering the Serbs half of Bosnia on a silver platter. Hence, ignore the plight of the victims of the Serb genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade. Hence believing the bull of "ancient ethnic hatred" and "they are all just as evil". Hence the leniency towards major Serb war criminals. Hence the farcical arrest of Ejup Ganic on ground of a warrant that Interpol had withdrawn and on charges the ICTY has already thrown out years ago. All this is just to intimidate the Bosniaks and because the Serbofascists still have powerful backers among the European leaders. And because they have made out the Muslims as the new enemy of mankind! Like they did with the Russians before. Granted, among Muslim leaders and among the populace there are evil elements, just like among the Soviets and their underlings, but 1.) It is ROTTEN to dehumanize an entire people or peoples, be they Russian, Muslim or whatever. 2) The notion that there is an Islamic bloc striving for world domination is utter NONSENSE, used to justify persecution and oppression of Muslims, even murder and rape. Just like the Serbofascists are doing. Exactly like Karadzic! Hence too the minaret ban in Switzerland and the Hijab ban in certain European countries. It is all only to point out the "enemy" and dehumanize them! Nothing but cheap demagogy, hate-mongering and fear-mongering! I despise people like that.

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 09:59
I would have expected all the serbofascists worldwide to come up with flaming diatribe in defense of their greatest hero, but it seems they are too ashamed to expose themselves as what they are. Insignificant and pitiful creatures. Just like their chetnik friends in Bosna were before the war. They all were crackpots, failures, losers, good-for-nothing BUMS, but then they were given AK-47s and told "do what you want with the balije!" and they became werewolves, ogres, monsters. Now, in court or in jail they piteously decry the "500-years oppression" of the poor angelical Serb people, deny they ever did anything wrong and say "we only defended ourselves". And, I'm not demonizing or dehumanizing the entire Serb people, those who committed murder, rape, pillage and destruction have dehumanized themselves, as have the leaders and instigators of the genocidal Serb anti-Bosniak crusade and all their supporters and keyboard jockeys worldwide. It is very unfortunate for the Serbs that a large majority still backs the Chetniks and their "revenge campaign" in Bosnia, but that's all their doing. I have known quite a few people from the former Yugoslavia, I read their literature, I hear their music, I watch their movies, and the picture I get of the Serbs is not a nice one.
And when the Serbs disguise their genocidal crusade as a "just and holy war" then this is fine and dandy, right? When the Bosniaks are defending themselves then they are "Jihadists, terrorists and al Qaida". Right?!? And you serbofascists have the NERVE of talking about "double standards!?!?"

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 10:07
Krivi smo što smo Muslimani (We are guilty because we are Muslims).
And let me tell you, all you serbofascists out there, we intend to Stay!
I read the folowing a while back "No matter what the outsiders’ responsibilities were, and here I am using the concept of political responsibility, what matters is that the war crimes committed by Serbs provoked immense suffering upon other peoples, but they have also eroded the moral integrity of the average Serbian citizens.
Indeed, it is all too common to meet people who are decent and honest, and then hear them repeating lies about how the Muslims from Srebrenica were 'slaughtering thousands of Serb villagers, how they butchered more than 3000 innocent Serbs', etc, etc, etc. And here I am speaking about moderate people." Then, if the moderates are like that, what are the radicals like? No, don't tell me, I know already. I read their comment here every day. Besides that, Milosevic was a "moderate" too.

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
March 02, 2010 10:10
Excuse of "500 years of past"? For Muslim "Future?"
It is what Karadzic say - they wanted Future for Serbs too.
Not withstanding crimes committed, as each sides meajured,
Devide Eastern Europe by Germany and Russa - it is what they do!

By secret pact of Germans from Russian KGB with Bechtel and British
In 1954, evolving it in times of Khrutchev and Brezhnev to Global trechery,
Trained Russian and Serb Special Forces, by German and British killery,
Serbs were killing to whiten Nazi Germany - Russia was killing hatesh.

Serbs leured into UN court - to annex for German clients Serbian lands.
Georgians denied by technicality - to annex for Russia Georgian homes.
Serbs did more crimes by order of Cousins Emperors, bind Serb hands.
Georgians were victims, 40 thousands killed - invaded by Russian hords.

The difference? Russian, Austrian, German and British Empires are back
And no diference who was killing whom. Karadzic, even he is bloody wrek,
Right at one thing - the Empires strike back, grabb Serb land and property.
One million of six Georgians expelled or killed by Russia - to die in poverty.

Konstantin.

PS:
World saw on TV when Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov was danceling,
On Bundershaft with NATO Secretary, dragging him to a Globe, giggling.
Grabbing space between Black and Caspean Seas - including Georgia.
Puting hand of Secretary on Balkans, he made him blash - like a Borgio.

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 10:20
And how could the Serb genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade have happened if before the war there were huge crowds of people in Serbia protesting against war and aggression? I remember, the streets of Belgrade were chock full of people chanting "All we are saying is Give Peace A Chance!" What became of them? (of course, the tanks were sent out and that demonstration was crushed in blood, but they could not possibly have killed them all?) Well, the best have surely gone (and keep going) into exile. And as for the rest:
"Of course, the simple folks don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, and neither in Germany. That is clear. But in the end it is the leaders of a country who determine politics, and it is always easy to bring the people to participate, be it in a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, a Parliament or a communist dictatorship. (...) With or without the right to vote, the people can always be made to follow the orders of their leaders. This is quite easy. You need to do no more than to tell the people that they are under attack, and to accuse the pacifists of a lack of patriotism and to allege that they are endangering the country. This method works in any country.“ (Hermann Göring, April 18., 1946, Nuremberg). And that is exactly how Milosevic did it. And Karadzic did it just the same way! And not only that, he himself believes his own lies that the Bosnian Serbs were (and still are) under attack. Dodik tells the people the same.

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 19:00
I've just heard that they have interrupted Karadzic's trial again! And the witnesses will have to go home without having declared. But is the ICTY really a bunch of blundering, bungling, bumbling fools? No, I don't think so. This is too much of a coincidence, this has system, method. It is a travesty, a caricature of justice. In the end they will let him go free. Just as they failed to condemn Milosevic, are bungling Seselj's trial, let Momcilo Mandic go free, let Biljana Plavsic go free, just like that they will let Karadzic get away with mass murder. With GENOCIDE! The message to Muslims worldwide: "your lives are of no account, you are of no account. Europe is a Christian club and we will NEVER give the Bosniaks right. We acknowledge that they got a very raw deal, but in order to maintain our nice Christain Europe the Bosniaks must be kept in limbo. Or else we would have a beachhead of Islamism in Europe, so sorry." Never mind that the Bosniaks are some of the most liberal and secular Muslims around. But that is just the point. According to all the Islamophobes Muslims are a bunch of medieval, bloody, violent, backwards monsters, and if there are any Muslims who are not like that then they must be either utterly destroyed or be brought to radicalise themselves, or else they would refute the nice, cozy "Islam is evil and Muslims are therefore evil" fallacy on which Islamophobia, the new fascism of our times is based. That's what it's all about. Just like in 1992-1995, when any action of the Bosniaks was seen as a provocation and what the western leaders actually wanted was them to surrender unconditionally. That's how the "the bombings of Markale and Kapija were all staged" fallacy came up. And that is why the British have arrested Ejup Ganic on old, trumped-up charges that were already dismissed by the ICTY years ago. And of course Ejup Ganic is guilty. He is as guilty as any Bosniak man or woman who tried to defend themselves. As guilty as the 8347 or probably more who were foully murdered BY SERBS! at Srebrenica in July 1995, and the maybe just as much who were murdered in the 3 years before. We are guilty because we are Muslims, and we are guilty because we exist, because we are there, because we have a national identity and a history. That is our guilt. And do you know something, all of you out there who want to see Bosnia erased from the map and the Bosniaks exterminated or diapersed to all corners of the world, and turned into fading memories? WE INTEND TO STAY, and your Cross will NEVER chase the Crescent out of our homeland!!!

by: Abdulmajid
March 02, 2010 19:00
By the same perverse Karadzic logic the Serbs use against Ejup Ganić and all Bosniaks, the Japanese would have a right to accuse as war criminals all those American sailors and soldiers who shot at the young Japanese aviators at Pearl Harbor! After all, on Dec. 7th, 1941 a state of war had not yet been declared between the United States and the Empire of Japan, right? So if we apply the same perverse logic the Serbs are using, then the Americans had NO RIGHT to defend themselves against an act of aggression committed by Japanese forces on American soil? I believe they had, and so have the Bosniaks, even more so! When the attacks of Dobrovoljacka and in Tuzla happened, a state of war already did exist bertween Bosnia and Serbia, and Bosnia had been recognized as a state. The Bosniaks could not let those well-armed and trained troops just get away, they were al legitimate military target, so to attack them was also a legitimate act of war and a military decision, whereas the Serb forces mostly targeted civilians, for it was their aim to exterminate the Bosniak people The Viječnica of Sarajevo, the Aladža Džamija in Foča, the Ferhadija in Banja Luka, the Bosniaks of Posavina, Šemberija and Podrinje, and the unarmed civilians of Srebrenica were NOT legitimate military targets! And the Serbs killed all the men of Srebrenica and raped the women with a dual purpose: 1.) if they had just let them go, the Bosniaks could have armed and equipped maybe 2000 of them as soldiers (even though, with what, given their paltry armament?), so it was a military decision to waste them. But they were not armed, they were not a legitimate target, abnd this act goes against the Geneva Convention; they could just have kept them prisoners but didn't want to feed them. So they wasted them. And 2.) by killing them all, even boys just as young as 11, they have wiped out 4 generations. The Muslim community of Srebrenica has been effectively wiped out; for that same reason they raped all the young women and girls, so they can never have any (legitimate) children. Already that IS genocide, and it would have been all the same if they had killed only one-tenth or even one-hundredth of their victims, as long as with that they made all the others go away. So, I will no longer regard as a human being anyone who in any whichever way supports the genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade. And I will see any Serb as guilty as Radovan Karadzić if he or she does not expressly and unequivocally acknowledge and distance themselves from the genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade! For me those are no longer human beings but Calibans (or was that cannibals), monsters!

by: NoJizyaTax from: USA
March 09, 2010 15:16
Abdulmajid clearly doesn't understand ISLAM or history. It is hard to deny Muslims desires to impose ISLAM upon everyone else when you consider that, just in the last 6 months alone, Christian churches have been burned in Pakistan, Kenya, Chad, Nigeria, Indonesia, etc. ISLAM is a "religion of peace" EXCEPT for when it is a "religion of violence & murder". The world is awash in a river of blood spilled by ISLAMIC terrorists in New York, Texas, Virginia, Russia, Spain, Great Britian, Yemen, Somolia, Canada, Indonesia, the Phillipines, Australia, etc. and you want us to believe that the Muslims are just a misunderstood victim of Western predjudice? Muslims act like a criminal who files a police report when his victim fights back. Karadzic spoke the truth when he said they wanted to live in peace with the Muslims, not under the heel of their boot. No one is fooled by ISLAM claims of innocence. It is all taqiyya (religious deception). The world is just starting to repay ISLAM for the death & destruction that it has been dishing out for the last 1,400 years.

by: Abdulmajid
March 10, 2010 18:14
NoJizyaTax
To say that I find that sort of Muslim-baiting objectionable, disgusting and evil would be to put it very mildly. That RFE/RL lets itself be misused as a platform for thiose fascists of our time to spew their venom and hate is still more objectionable. Such evil talk costs lives. The chetnik murderers will feel vindicated by such talk, and that fellow Axel Wiens who stabbed to deat pregnant Marwa Al Sherbiny in a Dresden courtroom in front of her small son and her husband (who was later mistaken as teh attacker and shot...well, what do you want, he was an Arab after all...!) had developed a hate against Muslims from reading and believeing such rubbish as "The world is just starting to repay ISLAM for the death & destruction that it has been dishing out for the last 1,400 years." You would not allow anybody to deny the Holocaust here nor to justify the Nazishere in the same way this fellow is justifying Karadzic, now would you? Then why for Heaven's sake do you let a despicable individual like that come with his Julius Streicher-like Muslim-baiting? And I tell you, as a Muslim myself, I feel threatened by such individuals. Am I supposed to wait around until they stab me too?
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