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Karadzic: Looking For A Monster, And Finding Only A Man

Radovan Karadzic in The Hague on August 29.
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Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic appeared today in the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal's courtroom in The Hague for the first time since his trial began last week.

Karadzic, who faces charges of genocide, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing during the 1992-95 Bosnian War, is remembered for his role in two of the war's grimmest chapters -- the massacre of 8,000 Muslim boys and men at Srebrenica, and the devastating siege of the Bosnian capital, Sarajevo, which lasted nearly four years and left an estimated 10,000 people dead or missing.

Gordana Knezevic, the director of RFE/RL's Balkan Service, was working as the deputy editor of Sarajevo's "Oslobodjenje" daily during the first two years of the siege. She remembers life during the siege and her struggle to understand the motivations fueling Karadzic, "the butcher of Bosnia."


By Gordana Knezevic

The first bullets that were fired shattered the windows of my newsroom at the "Oslobodjenje" daily. It was Sarajevo, in April 1992. Neither Radovan Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb leader, nor his military commanders setting siege to the city, had given any warning.

News arrived from Zvornik, a town in eastern Bosnia, that Serb forces had killed our correspondent Kjasif Smajlovic in his office. It wasn't until after the war that his body was recovered from a mass grave.

Our editorial meeting that day served as a memorial service for Kjasif. Who would know about his tragic death if we weren't able to put out the paper? On that day, and every day that followed, our challenge became figuring out how to run a daily paper without newsprint, phone lines to the outside world, or regular power supplies.

The structure of our civil life was broken. The road to "Oslobodjenje" was under constant sniper fire, and the building itself was targeted by artillery from a nearby army barracks. The homes of staff members turned into offices, while the newsroom -- moved to an underground shelter -- became a temporary home for the desk editors.

Our building was disappearing under a pile of rubble, the result of shelling by Karadzic's forces. But the daily bombardments didn't crush our determination to report and publish the news, no matter how grim the circumstances.

A Bosnian special forces soldier returns fire from Serb extremists who were shooting at a peace demonstration in downtown Sarajevo on April 6, 1992.
That summer, however, my colleague Salko Hondo was killed, and I was drained of all confidence. I was the last person to talk to him before he walked to his death. We had discussed a story by a young journalist about a freshwater spring that had been discovered in the back yard of a Sarajevan home.

In our besieged city -- where depriving us of life's basic necessities was part of Karadzic's attempt to keep the city in a state of desperation and terror -- any source of water, no matter how tiny, was news.

All we needed was a photo. Salko volunteered, cheerful as always. On his way back, he passed by the central market at the moment of a massive artillery attack. Thousands of shells were unleashed by Karadzic, unprovoked and unexpected. Salko and seven others were killed that day, with many more wounded.

The only thing left was his camera, flung some distance away by the force of the blast. A photograph showing happy Sarajevans gathered around a garden spring, drops of water glistening on their faces, was published the following day as part of Salko's obituary. Faced with the loss of a friend, I felt defeated. All our efforts seemed meaningless. No story was worth dying for.

Simple Message

In the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, there could be no logic other than a desire to bring us all to our knees. Karadzic and his supporters, secure in the hills surrounding the city, wanted to scare us to death, to allow his army to walk into the city and divvy it up. Serbs would be on one side, Muslims on the other. Croats, as far as he was concerned, could walk back to Croatia. He might even provide them buses, as an act of generosity.

Radovan Karadzic (right) listens to Bosnian Serb wartime commander Ratko Mladic in Pale on August 5, 1993.
His message was simple and had been repeated hundreds of times before the war: that people of different ethnic backgrounds cannot live together. Whatever the question put to him, his answer was the same, a constant, menacing mantra: "As long as Yugoslavia is breaking up, Bosnia cannot exist as a multiethnic country."

But my newspaper -- where people of different ethnicities continued to work together to put out the only daily in town -- was living proof that he was wrong. That's why we were targeted. "Oslobodjenje" was an uncomfortable and inconvenient reminder of Bosnian reality.

In this way, it was Karadzic, despite his best efforts, who gave me a reason to pull myself together. In spite of the military power he had acquired, and the terror that he had already sown, I decided that I would not be intimidated by Karadzic and his plans to build a Greater Serbia at Bosnia's expense. And so I went to talk to his former colleague from his former career as a psychiatrist -- Ismet Ceric, the chief of psychiatry at Sarajevo's Kosevo hospital.

"Don't worry," he reassured me. "If Radovan is commanding the army, they will lose the war. I keep seeing him on television looking at topographic maps, and I know he can't read those maps. He hasn't had a single day of military training."

An Average Man

I was surprised by how calm Ceric was, especially as a Muslim. He described Karadzic as an average doctor and an average man. It was not at all the account I was desperate for -- something that would help explain his evolution into a mass murderer.

"He didn't discriminate between patients based on nationality or religion. The way he performed his functions as a doctor was quite normal." That was all I could get from Ceric. It was only after I read German-Jewish philosopher Hannah Arendt's observations on Holocaust architect Adolph Eichmann that I was finally able to understand what Ceric was talking about:

A building burns in Sarajevo following Serb shelling on August 5, 1992.
"The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him and that many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were and still are terribly and terrifyingly normal," Arendt writes in her book, "Eichmann in Jerusalem," in which she coined the historic phrase, "the banality of evil." "From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together."

Arendt observed that the entire world wanted to see a monster, the person responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews, and that instead, the judges at his trial in Israel were facing a "new type of criminal" who, to the contrary, appeared at moments almost clownish.

Eichmann notoriously expressed a desire to reconcile with his enemies. In one of his letters from The Hague, Karadzic did the same, saying that he was "sorry for all the victims of the war." But, like Eichmann, Karadzic is utterly incapable of recognizing his personal responsibility for those victims. In his own sense of wartime reality, he was simply creating a "lebensraum" for Serbs.

It's hard to comprehend that the man who today will finally appear at his trial at The Hague tribunal is a plain and ordinary person doing his best to avoid justice. Karadzic's apparent "normality" is absolutely incongruous with the extent of his crimes.

The views expressed in this commentary are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect those of RFE/RL
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by: Asehpe from: The Netherlands
November 03, 2009 15:19
I think the basic thing is that we shouldn't expect Karadzic to show this understanding for what he did. We all live, to a smaller or larger extent, within the limits of our own understanding of what is 'necessary' and what is not. So did Karadzic. He did what he thought he had to do, and he shrugged moral responsibility for it just as we do for a thousand little things in our daily lives.

Humanum sum, nihil humanum a me alienum puto.

Still, of course, he is responsible and must pay.

by: Goran (Serbian refugee) from: USA
November 03, 2009 16:51
It is so sad that RFE never publish articles about atrocities committed against Serbs in Bosnia, and there were many. So sad. What happened to tens of thousands Serbs killed by Muslims, what happened to hundred of thousands expelled from they homes. I feel sad about what happned in Bosnia, but when you read time after time one-sided articles it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.

by: Abdul Majid
November 03, 2009 20:18
Serbs committed the greater parts of the war crimes in Bosnia because they are the aggressor and because they had the means to do it: the third most numerous army and the most heavily equipped army in Europe against the Bosniaks' hastily improvised defence forces who had to fight sometimes with vintage WW II weapons or even homemade rifles, and often only had one single assault rifle for three men. For each killed Serb (and those were mostly soldiers in combat) there were NINE killed Bosniaks. 500.000 Bosniaks were expelled from their ancestors' homes where they had lived fro centuries and scattered all over the world. Serbs expelled ALL Bosniaks from Srebrenica and from Eastern Bosnia and were awarded the half of Bosnia they had conquered through brute force "For Serbs only." They continue to obstruct and oppress the Bosniaks. And you are still not happy, Goran? What do you want, the rest of Bosnia too? And all Bosniaks to go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia? Yes, surely there were innocent Serb victims too, but since this is almost always presented by the Serbs out of a context of malice and hatred towards the Bosniaks it meets with little credibility. Anyway the only Bosnian Serbs who merit sympathy are those who did not raise a hand against the Bosniaks but fought on their side, and all those who distance themselves from Milosevic's and Karadzic's genocidal crusade. You do not seem to me to be one of them. Indeed, what you say seems to me a justification why the "job" Karadzic started must be finished. But do not think it will be so easy. Even wirth a numerical superiority of 3:1 and a weapons superiority of 10:1 the Serbs were not able to eliminate the Bosniaks. Through politicking they will not be able to do it either. Nor will they be justified by saying they "only defended themselves." And the Bosniaks will NEVER forget nor forgive what was done to them in the name of Serbdom. As long as Serbs insist that they were morally right and justified in their genocidal crusade, or that there was no genocide, or that the Bosniaks are exactly as evil (and let me remind you that to this day no Bosniak leader has ever said of the Bosnian Serbs what Karadzic said of the Bosniaks "they will disappear from the Earth"), or to regard such scum as Miliosevic, Seselj, Karadzic, Mladic, Biljans Plavsic and their henchmen Milan Lukic and Arkan (and say on the Bosniak side there were the same monstrous thugs), so long the Bosniaks will know that the Serbs still are only bent on bringing them to their knees, and they will NEVER surrender, for they know exactly what they can expect from Serbs like Karadzic, and it seems there are a lot of them around: Oppression, marginalization, persecution, humiliation, destruction, rape, robbery, murder, exile, death, denial of identity and history, that is, extermination, GENOCIDE. If the Serbs want their innocent victims recognized they must first distance themselves from the murderous Greater Serbia ideology. And from any anti-Muslim statements.You can dislike Islam all you like, nobody is forcing you to come into it. But respect the dignity and the rights of those who follow it. Don't say they had to die because of what the Turks or the Ustrase or whoever did to some Serbs over 60, 100 or 500 years ago.

by: Abdul Majid
November 03, 2009 20:30
Karadzic is of course none different from Adolf Eichmann. Like him, he is convinced that he never did anything wrong.
All the evil this man and all his henchmen unleashed on the Bosniaks; and the fact that there is a majority of Serbs who would do likewise out of the basest feelings towards the Bosniaks - and most probably no Bosniak ever did anything wrong to those people, they don't even know what the Bosniaks are really like nor do they care - does not make me feel any sympathy for the Serbs. Sometimes I have the notion that what Karadzic wanted for the Bosniaks "they will disappear from the face of the Earth" , should fall back onto their own heads. However, I do not think that genocide is the answer, for it is written that God created the people into different nations so that they might learn to respect each other. But some people are not prepared to do that. As long as the Serb general public do not expressly and inequivocally distance themselves from Karadzic's murderous ideology and his "they will disappear from the earth; kill all you get your hands upon; take revenge on the 'Turks', " and all his other disgusting, sick blah blah blah, I will not consider them civilized or indeed human beings at all, and the world too should shun them.
So, Goran, go and tell that to the Mothers of Srebrenica. Let's see what you have to say afterwards.

by: arturo
November 04, 2009 05:48
That's a strange final sentence. The commentary'd be better without it.

by: Djordje from: Ticino
November 04, 2009 08:48
Yes, indeed I wonder why RFS is "biased" against the Serbs and why it doesn not comment on Bosnian crimes against innocent Serbs civilians. Why is never mentioned the besieging and bombing of so many Serbian cities? Why it never mentions the bourning to ground of many Serbian villages? The massacre of thousands Serbian civilians including innocent children? The mass rape camps where innocent Serbian civilians where tortured to death and innocent Serbian women were raped sytematically? The houndrets of mass graves with un-identified innocent Serbian civilians found spreaded around Bosnia? And above all, why is never mentioned the besieging of the both Serbian capitals Banja Luka and Belgrade for 44 months by Bosnian army to teeth Bosnians?

A ye si forgot: according to ICTY and more importantly to congress resolution at the states : "90% of war crimes committed in Bosnia, was committed by Serbian forces"

lets be serious and FINALLY face the facts. The denial can only lead to very very sad incidents again. But on the ohter hand, snt it this that Serbs are seeking for? Like it was not enought to them all this Bosnian blood they suck, they want more! You have just to walk in the streets of Belgrade: you will see graffitti about Srebrenica, then take a walk to the train station: there are guys selling t shirts with the face of Karadzic and Mlandic saying " Srpski Heroj". Every nation has the heroes it deserves. I guess Serbs deserve to have as national heroes some blood thirsty monsters...

by: alban from: albania
November 04, 2009 10:41
the "Bosnian" case in the civil war chapter of human history is interesting because both victims and persecutors although the same race (there is no such race as "muslim" but those known as such in Bosnia, as well as serbs or even croats are one race known as south slavic, at least speaking one language), considered and still consider themselves different races. Thinking over what happened among them, how, and the historical context when this happened, maybe it is worth thinking it would be better leaving Karadzic alone and taking care of something else: instead of a judge this story would be best and for all resolved by a barber with a good shaving razor... indeed Karadzic did it, and his face is now neat and clean, but believe me , it is not enough as moreover he is not the one, he is not the right person needs shaving. It would be left alone in his misery, and the barber should be encouraged shave as many beards as he can over the south slavs land...

by: Lejla
November 04, 2009 13:15
Dear Djordje and Goran (but especially Djordje),
i think you might have not read the article properly or might have not understood it. Die she write in her article about the Muslims as victims? No, she wrote that there were different ethnicities working at Oslobodjenje and she did not say the Serbs did this and that....she talked about Karadzic and I hope that may be you will recognize that it is ridiculous what you said about the bombing and besieging of "so many Serbian cities"..:What cities? Serbian? This is already wrong, because you are clearly separating Serbian from non-Serbian. Sarajevo was a city for all ethnicitis, not just for Bosniaks or Croats, but also for Serbs. This was their city also which some also defended, because they didn't think that what Karadzic and co. had in mind was right or exusable. But with your comment, you are almost excusing some of the plans that Karadzic had in mind and wanted to realize. You have to think for yourself, all of us have to do this if we are to reconcile over the past. Not listen to any "heroes" whoever they may be. People, learn to think for yourself!!! And to try to sort out facts from any sort of resentment.

by: Dalibor from: Croatia
November 04, 2009 17:19
Thinks are not black and white always, especially not in Bosnia. When it comes to events in Bosnia during the civil war Radio Free Europe always try to present events as black and white. Unfortunately propaganda works, I personally see RFE as a big propaganda machine.

by: Djordje from: Ticino
November 04, 2009 20:04
Dear Lejla, you should understand that my comment was purely ironic and was not referring of course to the article but on the various fascist Serbian comments spreading anywhere that they try to justify what happened i Bosnia by them...so, probably you didn't read my comment carefully...
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