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Karadzic: Looking For A Monster, And Finding Only A Man

Radovan Karadzic in The Hague on August 29.

Last updated (GMT/UTC): 03.11.2009 13:22
Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic appeared today in the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal's courtroom in The Hague for the first time since his trial began last week.

Karadzic, who faces charges of genocide, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing during the 1992-95 Bosnian War, is remembered for his role in two of the war's grimmest chapters -- the massacre of 8,000 Muslim boys and men at Srebrenica, and the devastating siege of the Bosnian capital, Sarajevo, which lasted nearly four years and left an estimated 10,000 people dead or missing.

Gordana Knezevic, the director of RFE/RL's Balkan Service, was working as the deputy editor of Sarajevo's "Oslobodjenje" daily during the first two years of the siege. She remembers life during the siege and her struggle to understand the motivations fueling Karadzic, "the butcher of Bosnia."


By Gordana Knezevic

The first bullets that were fired shattered the windows of my newsroom at the "Oslobodjenje" daily. It was Sarajevo, in April 1992. Neither Radovan Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb leader, nor his military commanders setting siege to the city, had given any warning.

News arrived from Zvornik, a town in eastern Bosnia, that Serb forces had killed our correspondent Kjasif Smajlovic in his office. It wasn't until after the war that his body was recovered from a mass grave.

Our editorial meeting that day served as a memorial service for Kjasif. Who would know about his tragic death if we weren't able to put out the paper? On that day, and every day that followed, our challenge became figuring out how to run a daily paper without newsprint, phone lines to the outside world, or regular power supplies.

The structure of our civil life was broken. The road to "Oslobodjenje" was under constant sniper fire, and the building itself was targeted by artillery from a nearby army barracks. The homes of staff members turned into offices, while the newsroom -- moved to an underground shelter -- became a temporary home for the desk editors.

Our building was disappearing under a pile of rubble, the result of shelling by Karadzic's forces. But the daily bombardments didn't crush our determination to report and publish the news, no matter how grim the circumstances.

A Bosnian special forces soldier returns fire from Serb extremists who were shooting at a peace demonstration in downtown Sarajevo on April 6, 1992.
That summer, however, my colleague Salko Hondo was killed, and I was drained of all confidence. I was the last person to talk to him before he walked to his death. We had discussed a story by a young journalist about a freshwater spring that had been discovered in the back yard of a Sarajevan home.

In our besieged city -- where depriving us of life's basic necessities was part of Karadzic's attempt to keep the city in a state of desperation and terror -- any source of water, no matter how tiny, was news.

All we needed was a photo. Salko volunteered, cheerful as always. On his way back, he passed by the central market at the moment of a massive artillery attack. Thousands of shells were unleashed by Karadzic, unprovoked and unexpected. Salko and seven others were killed that day, with many more wounded.

The only thing left was his camera, flung some distance away by the force of the blast. A photograph showing happy Sarajevans gathered around a garden spring, drops of water glistening on their faces, was published the following day as part of Salko's obituary. Faced with the loss of a friend, I felt defeated. All our efforts seemed meaningless. No story was worth dying for.

Simple Message

In the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, there could be no logic other than a desire to bring us all to our knees. Karadzic and his supporters, secure in the hills surrounding the city, wanted to scare us to death, to allow his army to walk into the city and divvy it up. Serbs would be on one side, Muslims on the other. Croats, as far as he was concerned, could walk back to Croatia. He might even provide them buses, as an act of generosity.

Radovan Karadzic (right) listens to Bosnian Serb wartime commander Ratko Mladic in Pale on August 5, 1993.
His message was simple and had been repeated hundreds of times before the war: that people of different ethnic backgrounds cannot live together. Whatever the question put to him, his answer was the same, a constant, menacing mantra: "As long as Yugoslavia is breaking up, Bosnia cannot exist as a multiethnic country."

But my newspaper -- where people of different ethnicities continued to work together to put out the only daily in town -- was living proof that he was wrong. That's why we were targeted. "Oslobodjenje" was an uncomfortable and inconvenient reminder of Bosnian reality.

In this way, it was Karadzic, despite his best efforts, who gave me a reason to pull myself together. In spite of the military power he had acquired, and the terror that he had already sown, I decided that I would not be intimidated by Karadzic and his plans to build a Greater Serbia at Bosnia's expense. And so I went to talk to his former colleague from his former career as a psychiatrist -- Ismet Ceric, the chief of psychiatry at Sarajevo's Kosevo hospital.

"Don't worry," he reassured me. "If Radovan is commanding the army, they will lose the war. I keep seeing him on television looking at topographic maps, and I know he can't read those maps. He hasn't had a single day of military training."

An Average Man

I was surprised by how calm Ceric was, especially as a Muslim. He described Karadzic as an average doctor and an average man. It was not at all the account I was desperate for -- something that would help explain his evolution into a mass murderer.

"He didn't discriminate between patients based on nationality or religion. The way he performed his functions as a doctor was quite normal." That was all I could get from Ceric. It was only after I read German-Jewish philosopher Hannah Arendt's observations on Holocaust architect Adolph Eichmann that I was finally able to understand what Ceric was talking about:

A building burns in Sarajevo following Serb shelling on August 5, 1992.
"The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him and that many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were and still are terribly and terrifyingly normal," Arendt writes in her book, "Eichmann in Jerusalem," in which she coined the historic phrase, "the banality of evil." "From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together."

Arendt observed that the entire world wanted to see a monster, the person responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews, and that instead, the judges at his trial in Israel were facing a "new type of criminal" who, to the contrary, appeared at moments almost clownish.

Eichmann notoriously expressed a desire to reconcile with his enemies. In one of his letters from The Hague, Karadzic did the same, saying that he was "sorry for all the victims of the war." But, like Eichmann, Karadzic is utterly incapable of recognizing his personal responsibility for those victims. In his own sense of wartime reality, he was simply creating a "lebensraum" for Serbs.

It's hard to comprehend that the man who today will finally appear at his trial at The Hague tribunal is a plain and ordinary person doing his best to avoid justice. Karadzic's apparent "normality" is absolutely incongruous with the extent of his crimes.

The views expressed in this commentary are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect those of RFE/RL
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by: Abdul Majid
November 19, 2009 16:48
Nonsense, dan.
Shows you know not much about Bosniaks. I knew many Bosniak refugees during the war, old and young, and even those who enjoyed a beer or a glass of wine sometimes did not eat pork. And I have seen more women with hijab on the streets of Berlin than on the streets of Sarajevo. To defame today's Bosniaks as jihadists is only a poor justification for why they must be kept under the thumb and on their knees. But whio would be so foolish as to want theestabilshment of another West Bank and Gaza Strip right on Europe's dooerstep, and to turn the Bosniaks into the Palestinians of Europe? Who, among Europe's politicians is toying with such ideas should be removed from his post fortwith. Besides that,the Bosniaks will not allow anybody to bring them to their knees. No. A solution like in Rwanda would be best for Bosnia. And, since in a quite short time teh Bosniaks will be teh majority in their own country the powersd that be should finally listen to them.

by: dan from: melbourne
November 19, 2009 04:37
lmao

why is every page filled with 800+ words from this Abdul Majid. The unseen victims of whatever happened in ex-yugo are the pathetic human beings that spend there time trying to convince people how much they or their people suffered, and with the same mouth spout death threats to their enemies.

ESPECIALLY Bosniaks. their parents were communists that drank alcohol, ate pork, that now force their kids to cover up and go to mosque and remember their muslim roots. Now that their parents have lived their lives they squeeze it out of their kids and incite them to blame their problems on others. Most conveniently serbs.

If you cant relax and enoy life then your just a piece of human debris

by: Abdul Majid
November 18, 2009 10:35
...because he is right.

With what right do you call me a fraud, just because I am not on the Serb side?

I know what they have done and there is no reason to say anything good about the Serb side. Serbia will have to live with that stain forever, as Germany will forever ave to live with the stain of the Holocaust. And as long as tehre are Serbs around who say that their side was right in committing genocide against the Bosniaks there will be no peace in Bosnia. But the Bosniaks will not be brought to their knees. Only when the situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina is resolved in the same way as the RPF solved the situation in Rwanda will there be peace.
And other supporters of Karadzic and Milosevic have for years tried to smear me. Sometimes in public. There was a pseudo-Marxist from Turkey who just after the massacre of Srebrenica tried to smear the Bosniaks' leadership as fundamentalists. We booed him off the stage. And likewise, most people here and on other forums, after a while had to give up.
Well, trollbuster, when you chose your nick you were at least telling half the truth.
The Serbofascists always say "history will tell the truth". Well, history will prove them wrong. Because there is enough evidence and there have been judgmnents which clearly show who the aggressor and the victim is. Unfortunately there are always revisionists and unfortunately some elements among the Serbs will forever dream of Great Greater Greatest Serbia. Nevertheless I do not give up hope that someday teh peoples of teh Western Balkans will learn to get along with and respect each other. But before that, those who would bring the Bosniaks to their knees, decimate them, ghettoize them, subdue them, waste them, must be squelched. And you can believe me, the Bosniaks will not go down in silence nor will they be brought to their knees. The Bosniaks have been there before you, and they will be there after you.
IMA I BICE BOSNA I HERCEGOVINA I BOSNJACI U NJOJ!

by: trollbuster from: chicago
November 17, 2009 05:26
this fraud posting as abdul is given a long leash.

by: Antifascist
November 15, 2009 20:38
Like the Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg, stripped of the sometimes ridiculous attributes of their power, especially of their power over the life and death of innocents, Karadzic too just looks like the pitiful, pathetic and insignificant figure he actually is. And if there is something good about him being where he now is, it is that no Bosniak needs to fear him now (that is, if they ever did. Resent him they do, but fear him? A true believer only fears God's wrath.)

by: Abdul Majid
November 15, 2009 12:18
I see the pro-Serb trolls and flamers have refrained of spitting once more into the faces of the survivors and onto the graves of the victims of their genocidal crusade. Because they don't have one thing to stand on and they know it. I do know that some Bosniaks are guilty of gratuitous violence against Serb prisoners, and that in defendung themselves from Serb aggression some Serbs were killed too. After all it is not possible to wage war on humanitarian terms. But, during the Bosnian war there was clearly an aggressor and a victim. And that is the fundamental difference, there NEVER was any order issued by ANY Bosniak leader to commit genocide on any non-Muslims. This was NEVER policy of the Bosniak leadership. The number of Serb victims is often grossly exagerated (some are now saying that already 5.200 Serbs were killed at Srebrenica), misrepresented (in "Na Drini grobnica", photographs and videos of slaughtered Bosniaks are re-labeled "Serb victims") and generally presented in a context of malice, hatred, bad faith and the continued wish to destroy Bosnia-Herzegovina and the Bosniaks. So they lose all their credibility. Now, the serbofascists will reply with their usual killer phrases: "the Bosniaks want to establish an Islamic republic in Bosnia, they are as bad as they say we are, all sides are guilty, Serbs will not be ruled by Muslims, you must see the other side blah blah blah". Which to me is the same as some Nazis saying "But during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and the uprising at Treblinka, the Jews too killed some SS men, therefore they are guilty of murder too."
And to those who say "history will tell what happened": Yes, history will tell that the serbs wanted to erase Bosnia-Herzegovina from the map and to exterminate the Bosbniaks. Their own leaders and many of their apologists say so openly. Just read any statement by Milosevic, Karadzic, Mladic, Krajisnik, Plavsic and just about any Serb leader of that time or of today, and all anti-Bosniak rant which is so plentiful on any of the web sites concerned with the subject, watch teh videos, read teh testimonies of the survivors and of soem perpetrators of the massacres and the truth will be plainly visible for anybody of even average intelligence and decency. All anti-Muslim hate in the West notwithstanding. And since all the Anti-Muslims out there will not succeed in exterminating the Muslims even they will have to acknowledge the truth, and that Karadzic's genocidal project is condemned to failure in the end. I hope, from that, reconciliation between Muslims and those non-Muslims who now hate Muslims will someday be possible. But people always need an scapegoat. Like Orwell said, the future is a boot stamping on a face. But only where there is ignorance and lack of respect to the "other". After all, God created Mankind as dfifferent tribes and nations so that they might learn to respect each other. Who is not prepared to do that deserves never to find peace on Earth. Of course there are quite a few stupid and evil people among teh Muslims too. After all they are no better or worse than all other peole in the world. But who pigeonholes ALL Muslims as terrorists, jihadists, subversives, wife-beaters and suicide bombers and says it is just to make war on them until their complete annihilation or submission, and that they are infrahuman, deserves all hate and contempt in the world. And I find it objectionable that such elements are given a voice here, for if anybody said such things about the Jews he would not only be banished but if found out would have to answer criminal charges.
And to all anti-Muslim flamers and trolls, I have NEVER defended ANY of Osama bin Laden's or the Talibans standpoints. Such people are not an asset for Muslims. So kindly refrain from pigeonholing me with them. By doing this you only show your intellectual and moral shortcomings.

by: Abdul Majid
November 10, 2009 16:33
c'mon, say something intelligent for a change

by: trollbuster from: chicago
November 10, 2009 05:05
izetbegovic, oric and their apologists are hypocrites and liars.

by: Antifascist
November 09, 2009 11:37
Of course Radovan Karadzic is a spiritual brother of Adolf Eichmann. No less. The banality of evil. A surrealistic rat. No more.

by: Abdul Majid
November 08, 2009 21:51
Someone who denies the Bosniaks teh right to live on grounds of their being Muslim has NO LESSONS to give to me, and by throwing invective at me like callimg me "creep" he only throws his moral and intellectual shortcomings into sharp contrast.
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