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Turkish-Armenian Diplomatic Ties In The Offing?

A Turkish boy walks along railroad tracks disused since the closure of the Turkish-Armenian border. The new agreement foresees the border reopening.

September 29, 2009
By Antoine Blua
Turkey and Armenia won international applause on August 31, when they agreed on diplomatic protocols aimed at establishing diplomatic ties and reopening their border after almost a century of hostility.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on September 27 said the two countries' foreign ministers -- Armenia's Eduard Nalbandian and Ahmet Davutoglu of Turkey -- will sign the protocols on October 10 in Switzerland.

Richard Giragosian, director of the Armenian Center for National and International Studies, a Yerevan-based think tank, tells RFE/RL there is reason to believe the agreement will proceed as planned.

"We've seen a wave of protests and some demonstrations in the Armenian capital, but we've also seen some opposition within Turkey itself,” Giragosian said. “The interesting thing is [that] in many ways, the opposition to the normalization has actually been less than expected by many -- including by the governments of both sides -- which gives ground to some optimism that the protocols will in fact be signed."

That prospect is being seen by many as an opportunity that could help end hostilities stemming from the World War I mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks.

But even if the protocols were signed, the parliaments of both Armenia and Turkey would have to ratify them before they could take effect. That stands as a significant hurdle, considering the intense positions that have prevented a normalization of relations between the two states.

A main issue of dispute is that Yerevan wants the massacre by Ottoman Turks recognized as genocide, which Turkey strongly rejects.

Armenia scholars say 1.5 million Armenians died at the hands of the Ottoman Turks from 1915-23 in a campaign aimed at eliminating the Armenian population in the Ottoman Empire.

Ankara says that up to 600,000 Armenians died during World War I and during deportations out of eastern Anatolia. But it says the deaths were in the context of an Armenian uprising, as Armenians sided with invading Russian troops at the time.

Regional Disputes

Turkey recognized the state of Armenia after its independence in 1991, but failed to establish formal diplomatic relations.

In 1993, Turkey closed its border with its neighbor in solidarity with its Turkic ally Azerbaijan over Yerevan's support to ethnic Armenians living in Nagorno-Karabakh.

The enclave falls within Azerbaijan's borders, but has been controlled by ethnic Armenians since they won a three-year war against Azerbaijan in 1994.

Eduard Sharmazanov, a spokesman for the ruling Republican Party of Armenia, told RFE/RL's Armenian Service that deputies will start debating the protocols on October 1.

"This is a very complicated process,” Sharmazanov said. “It will show whether we take the right way or the wrong one. I think we are going the right way. And after that, we'll start the process of ratification. I don't expect it to be done at once."

Armenian critics to the deal, including the Zharangutyun (Heritage) and Dashnaktsutyun (Armenian Revolutionary Federation) opposition parties, say it would mean the recognition of the two countries' borders and includes elements that call into question Yerevan's stance on the genocide issue.

But analyst Giragosian says a difficult passage "or even much of a debate" is not expected at the Armenian parliament, given the overwhelming majority of pro-government deputies.

The real challenge, others suggest, might come from Turkey, where the government faces accusations of making concessions that damage the country's interests and of selling out Azerbaijan.

"The protocol establishing diplomatic relations has a higher chance of being endorsed by the parliament,” said Barcin Yinanc, a commentator for the “Turkish Daily News.” “But as for the protocol that foresees the opening of the border, I think that the chances are very dim, unless there is improvement toward a solution to Nagorno-Karabakh."

On September 26, Azerbaijan's officials news agencies quoted the chairman of the Turkish parliament, Mehmet Ali Shahin, as saying the accords on normalizing ties with Armenia will not be ratified as long as the Armenia-Azerbaijan dispute remains unresolved. He reportedly made the comment during talks with President Ilham Aliyev in Baku.

Giragosian says both the Armenian and Turkish government have done "far too little" to prepare their societies to for a normalization of relation. And in the case of Armenia, he says, there may be a backlash.

"Opening borders, establishing diplomatic relations between Armenia and Turkey is pretty much a shared goal of a large majority of the population of Armenia,” Giragosian said. “The problem is the process of this diplomatic negotiation. There's overwhelming secrecy, there's a lack of information that is encouraging only disinformation. And there is also a disconnection or disengagement where the ordinary Armenian citizen and even civil society feel unengaged in this process."

Armenia's President Serzh Sarkisian embarks on a world tour October 1 that will take him to France, Lebanon, Russia, and the United States to explain the benefits of the accord to the Armenian diaspora.

RFE/RL's Armenian and Azeri Services contributed to this report.
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by: Lucy Smith from: London
October 04, 2009 20:17
To Ray from the colonies: when did Turks and Armenians live like brothers in the past one thousand years? When did Turks let Armenians live in peace? Turks have slaughtered Armenians in the last one thousand years, and today's Turks are proud of their forebears' crimes. The Turkish government organised and carried out the Armenian Genocide, killing one and a half million Armenians.

by: Donovan from: PA
October 03, 2009 23:01
FYI, "Baku-Tiblisi-Kars railway line" or even a dirt road by that name does not exist. Dream on

by: Ray from: United States
October 03, 2009 16:14
The ball is on Turkey's side yes it is a pluse for Armenia for open border but is it better for Turkey to show the EU once and for all
Turkey is ready to step into the 21st century, Every nation that has had a empire on time or a nother has had it's dark past,
i do have hope that these two nation that have lived like brother
for a thosuand years will once again live in peace.

by: Lucy Smith from: London
October 02, 2009 18:43
The Armenian Genocide, organised and carried out by the Turkish government has been recognised by most serious historians. Diplomats, embassadors, missionaries and travellers in the otoman empire at the time witnessed the genocide and put the gruesome details on record. However much the current Turkish authorities and their obsequious American and British supporters try to deny or play down the historical truths, no one can contradict the existing evidence without making fools of themselves.

by: Orhan Ertugruloglu from: the Netherlands
October 02, 2009 08:37
The two protocols for the establishment of diplomatic ties and opening borders between Turkey and Armenia will be signed on October 10 in Zurich. But the protocols will come into force only after Parliamentary approval in both countries. It is highly possible that Armenian leadership will not be able to secure the required majority in the Parlliament. For Erdogan, that is the worst case scenario; Turkey says Yes, Armenia says No. In my opinion Armenia will also lose if reconciliation is hampered that way. We should not forget that Yerevan in the past has missed out strategic investment projects in the Caucasus like Baku-ceyhan Pipelineand Baku-Tiblisi-Kars railway line and by doing so failed to increase iths people's welfare..

by: Harold from: Canada
October 02, 2009 01:47
To add what john says, the Armenian Genocide compared to the Jewish holocaust, for the Armenian Genocide recognition and justice there is still a big hill to climb, it is a political wild-card for the west. Until then media & newspapers Radio free Europe will continue to be "fair" and "free" by presenting us an Armenia vs Turkey point of view about the Genocide instead Ottoman Young Turks (who committed the crime of genocide) against humanity.

by: Almost Gullible from: North Pole
October 01, 2009 14:07
A biased article from RFE/RL - a wide brush with suggested wrong facts - it is NOT ONLY the "Armenia" scholars that have establshed teh fact of genocide - see Mehmet's comment below.
Eric, your tonge-in-cheek comment about who should join what and the qualities of the Turkish people may be understood wrongly by the superficial - they may think that you really mean it...

by: AZAD from: Asia Minor
October 01, 2009 14:00
I agree with Ivan from Sofia 100%.

the sooner Turks understand their real history in the region, the sooner will resolve the so called "cultural conflicts" between East and West.
The Turkish history is based on invasion of Eastern Europe and middle East, it is natural that there were many massacres, further they were the first modern government who initiated and participated in modern Genocide, i.e Armenian Genocides and elimination of the christian Minorities in Turkey.
So RFE needs to publish articles about it by independent historians and lets have debate about it.


by: RD
October 01, 2009 13:37
Ivan, if it is any solace to you, I don't think there is any nationality that lived in the Middle East or Eastern Europe who has not seen atrocities from the Ottomans / Turks. Whether you speak of the Kurds, Armenians, Bulgarians, Romanians, Arabs, Assyrians. I feel for what you are saying and maybe you should press RFERL to write an article about the hardships of the Bulgarian people. I find it amusing when Turks and their supporters write about how Armenians or Eastern Europeans have committed violence against them, completing forgetting that it was the Turkish imperial aspirations and their subjugation of peoples is what created animosity against them. When violence erupted against Turks in the early 1900's, it was people who fought for their freedom from centuries of harsh Ottoman rule.

by: RD
October 01, 2009 03:23
Eric
Before you bore us with your puerile comments, maybe you should learn how to spell. After all, you do live in London.
First of all, The Armenian Genocide has been accepted as fact by the International Association of Genocide Scholars. A number of states around the world have accepted what happened to the Armenians was Genocide. Even in the U.S., more than 40 states have accepted the events between 1915 and 1923 as Genocide. The most credible Turkish scholars have also accepted what happened to the Armenians as Genocide before they were arrested under article 301 or killed like Hrant Dink. Having said all this, put aside scholars, investigations, commissions. The commission proposed in the protocols between Armenia and Turkey is just a ploy by Turkey to delay recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Get your head out of your back side and ask yourself what happened to the approximately 2 million Armenians who lived in Eastern Anatolia. Even conservative Turkish sources estimate that more than 1.8 million Armenians lived in Eastern Anatolia. Why have they left their churches, homes, lands and all property and left. I have travelled across Turkey from Istanbul to Kars. One theme seems to come up over and over again. Turkey would go to any length to ensure any trace of Armenian existence is erased. Churches in Kars are called museums, and mosques. Sarayis in Istanbul built by Armenian architects are said to have been built by Italian architects. Balian has become Baliani. All efforts to erase any trace that Armenians lived in Anatolia once. Turkey's kin is no better. Azerbaijan has destroyed more than 10,000 khatchkars in Azerbaijan to erase the fact that Armenians lived there at one point while the mosque in Shushi remains erect.
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