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The Daily Vertical: What Kind Of Peace?

Daily Vertical: What Kind Of Peace?i
January 20, 2016
By Brian Whitmore

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by: Rory Challands from: Moscow
January 20, 2016 11:12
Hi Brian. At the moment, the video is still playing yesterday's piece on Kadyrov - not the Donbass one. Needs correcting, I think.
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by: Moderator from: Prague
January 20, 2016 12:30
Thanks. Editor's error. Should be fixed shortly!

by: GC from: London
January 20, 2016 12:13
This appears to be yesterdays Daily Vertical
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by: Moderator from: Prague
January 20, 2016 12:29
Thanks. Editor's error. Should be fixed shortly!

by: Bo from: Czech Kingdom
January 20, 2016 13:57
Afraid, Kerry ie Obama are too soft (to put it mildly) to really make the most of this to really press Putin hard resulting in his downfall.

I mean do we really believe this Russian regime will ever change his mind and stops seeing us as enemies?

That it will stop wanting to subjugate Ukraine for its "democratic treason"?

by: Albert
January 20, 2016 15:01
I wouldn't expect much from Russia, as Putin doesn't care much about saving face, as he keep sending arms and munitions to Donbass by the vagons.

by: AJ ( Canada )
January 20, 2016 16:32
My guess is that Putin will not cave in to any pressure from the West because of how it will be viewed domestically in Russia. Also because he is fanatically determined to undermine the Ukrainian government. Remember that Putin is a degenerate Mafia style warlord void of any sense of right or wrong.

by: Neil Nelson from: UT, USA
January 20, 2016 18:11
I think the best we can expect from Putin is cold war. For Putin, peace is for suckers. The well-worn pattern is to threaten and use force and let those wanting peace trade their independence for rule by those willing to have war. See Machiavelli's The Prince chapter 14.

"A prince ought to have no other aim or thought, nor select anything else for his study, than war and its rules and discipline; for this is the sole art that belongs to him who rules, and it is of such force that it not only upholds those who are born princes, but it often enables men to rise from a private station to that rank. And, on the contrary, it is seen that when princes have thought more of ease than of arms they have lost their states."

Putin has almost nothing to gain by removing forces from eastern Ukraine. The price of oil can not be negotiated. Crimea where the majority of the sanctions are connected is not being negotiated. Putin is now on the international stage speaking directly to Obama acting as a super-power head-to-head with the U.S. He is going to milk this spotlight on the world stage, where he desires to be, for whatever he can get and staying in eastern Ukraine helps keep him in the spotlight.

We are not going to see much change until Putin falls from power and that is going to take a while. In the meantime the West can easily trade their position away thinking they will have peace.
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by: Greg from: Canada
January 23, 2016 11:05
Good observations Neil, I agree Putin will not give an inch. How long can he stay in power??? Not sure but more pressure needs to be placed upon him now, not releasing pressure. He may feel corner and act in a very violent way but these actions will only continue to cement a solid force against him. Putin is becoming active in Moldova now and there are signs he will move into Belarus. he has a goal and will be be deterred by a weak Obama.\

The problem is who will be a strong leader in the USA later this year? It does not look good? Putin is happy to see the sad state of leadership in the West. Merkel is hopelessly working to secure Putin's favour so Germany can sell to Russia and Hollande is very open to removing sanctions. The EU unfortunately seems more eager to trade with Russia regardless of the aggressive actions Russia takes towards any country it desires.

by: Yoshua
January 20, 2016 18:40
The EU is a carrot, Ukraine is the donkey and Russia is a stick... but the carcass isn't moving. The party is over. It's time for a settlement ?

Something big is broken. The world is slowly falling apart around us, Ukraine is only one of the symptoms of the collapse.
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by: O. Howard from: eastern USA
January 21, 2016 22:07

That's what everyone thought about Ukraine in 2013, too.

Yes, the world is changing. Outside of the Third World a set of forms and people embodying them- empires, Agrarian Age religions, Industrial Age technologies, the Agrarian/Industrial Age working class and lower middle class- are in decline, probably dying, and will constitute a much smaller proportion of the world in a generation or two. Mentally unhealthy people are incrementally being squeezed out of workplaces and professions and finding it harder and harder to find sufficiently functional partners for marriage and reproduction.

It's no fun getting there, but people in the future will look back at 2016 and be primarily struck by the lack of sanity and good sense and dysfunction to societies and what they did. The Russian/Ukrainian thing would be a significant example in the long and painful worldwide effort to settle old disputes and set standards higher.

by: James from: US
January 20, 2016 23:42
US Federal Reserve money squandered to the Ukrainian war, the Iraqi war, the Syrian war... If you missed it, last week a proposal to audit the Federal Reserve failed to pass in the US Senate. The bill, proposed by Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, was opposed by majority of senators, the White House, and the business lobby.
"It is absurd we do not know where hundreds of billions worth of our money is going,” Rand Paul said ahead of the vote.

The bill would have required a Government Accountability Office audit of the Federal Reserve – a private entity (!!!) entrusted with managing the US monetary policy – and potentially expose the secret interest rate deliberations of the Federal Open Market Committee, according to Bloomberg.

The White House has called Paul’s proposal “dangerous,” without further explanation. So, how can you explain the resistance of majority of senators, if it is not a collective conspiracy in order to conceal the enormous financial crimes of the Federal Reserve? It is now must be clear for all Americans in what kind of criminal country we live.
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by: Steve from: Kyiv, Ukraine
January 21, 2016 13:30
Can you please stay on topic and not bore us to death with your "bankester" conspiracy theories from Paul's son. Give the rest of the World a break will ya.

by: Ann K from: USA
January 20, 2016 23:51
All the "enemies" are invented and artificially created by the CIA... A former CIA agent Michael Scheuer recently made it clear: Al-Qaeda - it's an "enemy" which doesn't exist. Which didn't exist when even Ben Laden was alive, which doesn't exist now. America is being attacked because of its foreign policy, because of its support for Israel, because of its support for Saudi police state, because of its presence at the Arabian Peninsula...
To listen to Michael Scheuer'd interview, type on YouTube: CIA Agent Explains How Al-Qaeda Doesn't Exist...
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by: Steve from: Kyiv, Ukraine
January 21, 2016 13:34
And I guess you also believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the late Jim Jones. Do some crosschecking and home work.

by: Nick from: NY, US
January 20, 2016 23:57
The people in the US are at fault cause they will believe everything mainstream media will say, including RFE/RL. People or so called sheeps will never question authorities. Look at us, we are allowing this to happen. We are letting these New World Order criminals destroy our economies.

People have a choice and that is to listen to mainstream lies or alternative media. All people care about now in this society is soccer, going out to the pub watching their favorite team winning while the banking cartel screw us over. It is our fault. Look at what Obama has done. Promise change hahaha. Change for the Banks on Wall Street while eradicating the middle class.
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by: Antemuralecro from: Mare Nostrum
January 21, 2016 13:24
I wish you to try live one year in KGB tsardom with politicians,oligarchs,journalists and whole system unchanged from Soviet times. Then you will know what is Orwell's farm...And then you will praise our Western (far from truthful but in compare with KGBstan!!!) media.
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by: Steve from: Kyiv, Ukraine
January 21, 2016 13:36
Here we go again. Another New World Order, Federal Reserve, Bankster Conspiracy Theorist. Please give the rest of the World a break !!

And also STAY on Topic !!!
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