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Explainer: France's New Genocide Law Is About More Than Ottoman Armenians

Armenians demonstrate outside the French Embassy in Yerevan to thank France for enacting a law that makes it a crime to deny the mass killings of Armenians
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By Charles Recknagel
The French parliament has grabbed headlines this week by passing legislation under which it would be a crime to deny that the mass killings of Ottoman Armenians in 1915 was genocide. 
 
But there is something often overlooked in the reporting on France's new law.
 
The new law is not just about Ottoman Armenians.
 
In fact, the law makes it a crime for French citizens to deny any genocide recognized by France. 
 
At the moment, Paris only recognizes two mass killings as genocide. They are the Holocaust carried out against Jews and Roma by Nazi Germany during World War II, and the killings of the Ottoman Armenians in World War I.
 
Holocaust Denial A Crime

But there are things about the new law that suggests the number could grow.
 
A little history shows why.
 
When the new law was first proposed, it was as a follow-up to France's recognizing the killings of the Ottoman Armenians as genocide in 2001. 
 
So, the first proposal was to simply make denying that a crime, just as denying the Holocaust has been a crime since 1990.
 
But to gain support, the new law's proponents widened its scope. 
 
They proposed making it a punishable offense to deny any genocide recognized by France -- now or in the future.
 
With that, the campaign was successful. The result: denying officially recognized genocides brings a punishment of up to one year in prison, a fine of 45,000 euros ($58,000), or both.
 
Such success could encourage campaigns around other genocides, particularly those recognized in some places but not in France.
 
The UN General Assembly, for example, recognizes three genocides: the Holocaust, the mass killing of Armenians at the hands of Ottoman Turkey in 1915, and the mass murder of Tutsis and moderate Hutus in Rwanda in 1994.
 
The UN's Hague-based court for the former Yugoslavia tries suspects for genocide as well as for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
 
And there are groups seeking to gain wide recognition of the mass killings in Cambodia, the Hladomor in the Ukraine, and the eviction of the Circassians from the Russian Empire as genocide, to name just a few more.
 
Still, no one should underestimate the difficulties involved. Nowhere do parliaments take recognizing genocides lightly, because there is always a political cost.
 
For France, recognizing the genocide against Ottoman Armenians has damaged relations with Turkey.
 
Disputed Numbers

Many historians estimate that up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by the Ottoman Turks. But Ankara puts the toll at 300,000 to 500,000 and rejects that the killings were an organized policy.
 
In Turkey, writers who question that can run afoul of a legal provision that makes it illegal to insult Turkey.
 
Nobel Prize winner Orhan Pamuk was called to court for saying in 2005 that "30,000 Kurds and 1 million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it."
 
His case was later dropped by the Justice Ministry. But it had a chilling effect on any others who might say the same.
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by: John Harduny from: Reston, VA, USA
January 24, 2012 19:30
"Many historians estimate that up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by the Ottoman Turks. But Ankara puts the toll at 300,000 to 500,000 and rejects that the killings were an organized policy." My rhetorical question: why in the world does this journalist Charles Recknagel bother to draw attention to Turkish denialist propaganda - a bona fide nonsense - if "Many historians estimate that up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by the Ottoman Turks." Hello ... Are you familiar with the term "manufactured controversy?" If not visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactured_controversy

by: focusoninfinity from: Southport, North Carolina
January 25, 2012 01:36
As to the French government's correctness of the numbers involved; I simply do not know?

I believe the French government is correct, and all governments would likewise, also be correct; with the concept that genocide, both ethically and legally, is not to be ignored.

Rather than make it illegal to deny certain genocides; and tell it's citizens what not to do, or say; a more positive approach would be:
1. State the official government conclusions that these were genuine genocides...
2. ...the factual basis for these findings...
3. ...that it is illegal for those within French government jurisdiction to indicate that officially; that items 1 and 2, are other than as officially stated..
4. Provided Items 1, 2, and 3, are correctly indicated; those within French jurisdiction, who are not actually, or otherwise seemingly acting within their official governmental capacity; are free to non-officially, personally affirm or disagree with official French government genocide policy and/or findings.

Did not once a prophet to both Muslims and Christians once indicate; as you do it to the least of them, you do it unto me? The "them" did not exclude either Christian, Muslim, or Jew?
In Response

by: Camel Anaturk from: Kurdistan
January 25, 2012 11:52
Dear focuser on infinity from the southern port of north Carolina,you are absolutely 150% right as always.Me,being out of focus,is wondering whether your infinitely focused and wise pundit meanderings on the subject may apply to other genocides or the Holocaust whose denial is also punishable by law in France and elsewhere.This question is not valid if you are a lawyer,you have the right to remain silent and I will not use anything you say against thou.Thank you!!!

by: Amisch Jaimoukha from: Amman
January 25, 2012 11:37
"And there are groups seeking to gain wide recognition of the mass killings in Cambodia, the Hladomor in the Ukraine, and the eviction of the Circassians from the Russian Empire as genocide."... Yes. Many Circassian look forward to the day when their tragedy in the 19th century is recognized by France, and other countries (besides Georgia), as the first systematic genocide in recent history, preceding the horrific Armenian genocide by about half a century. The Armenian genocide is acknowledged in France, but not by Georgia, and vice versa, the Circassian genocide is recognized by Georgia, but not by France. In both cases, it could be argued that political convenience is the motive force behind the course of action. The Circassians should keep in mind that their drive to publicize their tragic history should have a higher goal in mind, realistically (some doubt that this is a realistic aim) the re-establishment of independent Circassia (albeit in stages), with its historical boundaries restored and with plans to reassemble the disparate diaspora communities in their homeland (at least those who wish to return permanently or intermittently). Without the Circassians taking full control of the reins of their destiny and having the freedom to make their own decisions regarding the hard issues that face the nation, there will be no guarantee that the Circassian language and culture can survive and prosper in the long run. "A nation without language and culture is just a crowd", as the influential Circassian writer and intellectual Hebas Beischtoqwe (for one) said on many occasions.

by: TheHunter from: UK
January 26, 2012 15:21
"France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes." —Mark Twain

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." —General George S. Patton

by: Jon from: Canada
January 26, 2012 23:40
Seriously?!! You are the Radio Free Europe and you are promoting this law??!! i guess, that is your approach when it comes to Armenia! anything to do with Armenia is always should be presented in positive way!! even when it comes to suppressing a freedom of speech! I wonder how France will promote freedom of speech with 'Muslim' dictators from now on?!!!

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