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Is Ilyasova A Turkish Name?

Zaza Pachulia (second from left) and Josh Smith of the Atlanta Hawks surround Ersan Ilyasova (center) of the Milwaukee Bucks as they battle for the ball during a 2010 NBA playoff game in Milwaukee.
Zaza Pachulia (second from left) and Josh Smith of the Atlanta Hawks surround Ersan Ilyasova (center) of the Milwaukee Bucks as they battle for the ball during a 2010 NBA playoff game in Milwaukee.
He stands 208 centimeters tall and has just signed a contract with the Milwaukee Bucks of the U.S. National Basketball Association for $45 million.

But was Ersan Ilyasova really born in Turkey's Eskisehir in 1987, as his official biography attests? Or is his name really Arsen Ilyasov, born in Bukhara, Uzbekistan in 1984?

Ilyasova was reportedly registered officially in Turkey by a man named Semsettin Bulut in 2002 who said he forgot to register his 15-year-old son. A Turkish investigation supposedly found no previous record of the talented youngster.

But those reports also say that an 18-year-old Uzbek, Arsen Ilyasov, had arrived in Turkey a month before and was never heard from again. This was the reason why the young player dominated other players his age at youth competitions, some said.

In fact, the Uzbek basketball federation made a formal complaint against the Turkish federation, saying Turkey had registered their player. But the International Basketball Federation ruled in Turkey's favor and his Turkish status was confirmed.

But others say that, indeed, Ilyasova was Arsen Ilyasov from Uzbekistan but that his parents were Crimean Tatars exiled to Uzbekistan by Soviet leader Josef Stalin during World War II as part of the brutal mass population transfers of the period.

What's more, his parents Enver and Iraliye Ilyasov have since returned to Crimea now that they are free to return.

Wherever he's from, Ilyasova says he's happy in Milwaukee, where he met his wife, Julia, who was born in Belarus, and where his daughters Xenia and Catherine were born.
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by: Ali from: istanbul
July 13, 2012 20:32
Ilyasova= ilyas+ova
ilyas+ a turkish name
ove= plain (geography)

Eskisehir has plenty of Tatars immigrated last century from Russia.

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by: Plim from: USA
July 14, 2012 16:16
Ilyas= turkic, not turkish to be correct. Ilyas common name in many turkic-speaking countries (uzbek, kazakh, kirgiz, etc.), more common among tatars and crimean tatars. Ilyas+ova typical last name in turkic countries (not Turkey) that follow Russian standard. So he probably has immigrated to Turkey from Uzbekistan.

It's strange that his last name ends with "ova" (a female suffix) instead of "ov" (a male suffix). Probably changed to "ova" while in the U.S. to make it easier to pronounce in English.

by: Zeki Uğurlu from: Turkey
July 14, 2012 14:17
Jewish - Eliyah, Cristian - Elias, Muslim-İlyas
(ov-male) or (ova-female) slavian suffix of surnames.

by: Plim from: USA
July 14, 2012 16:36
Here is what I found. He was born in Tajikistan and moved to Uzbekistan when he was 13, and moved to Turkey when he was 15. More likely, Turkish basketball officials has faked his birth certificate, otherwise how could he be born in Turkey?

All in all, he is originally from Tajikistan.
Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&id=2052904

by: Ali from: Istanbul
July 14, 2012 19:19
I am still not convinced. Many tatars in Eskisehir since 1900s. Many ilyasovas in Istanbul whitepages. Need paperwork to prove otherwise.
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by: Plim from: USa
July 15, 2012 21:58
Then why is his Turkish is poor, while speaks Russian? There isno record he was born there.

by: Jack from: US
July 14, 2012 20:33
is Ilyasova approved by US government?

by: Max
July 14, 2012 21:15
We are talking about Eastern Europe Country every one knows in thous counters every player age is changed, Turkoglu age is changed, Ilyasova age is changed, Pachulia is two years older than it shows in his passport,
how do i know this, easy
I played Basketball in Eastern Europe, I was pretty solid player so When i was 15 i want to Turkey to resume my carer there and they offered me
that they would give me Turkish nationality and would make me three years younger

by: Sey from: World
July 15, 2012 01:32
Who cares if it is a Turkish name? Turks have the ability of making everything non-Turkic magically become Turkic right in front of your eyes...like Ali from Istanbul just showed us
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by: Ali from: Istanbul
July 16, 2012 13:18
I thought I proved otherwise. That Tatars are Turkic and have been in turkey for,decades and can be Turkish like many foreigners are also,Americans after immigrating to the USA. So this guy to be a turk is ok. Question is his age. Need paperwork to prove it is fake.

by: Luke
July 17, 2012 22:24
He is more Turkish than the "Turks" playing for Turkey!

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