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'Winning' Rival Ivanishvili Calls For Georgian President's Resignation

Georgia's billionaire opposition leader Bidzina Ivanishvili speaks during a news conference at his campaign headquarters in Tbilisi on October 2, when President Mikheil Saakashvili conceded defeat on behalf of his ruling party.
Georgia's billionaire opposition leader Bidzina Ivanishvili speaks during a news conference at his campaign headquarters in Tbilisi on October 2, when President Mikheil Saakashvili conceded defeat on behalf of his ruling party.

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In accepting defeat in the parliamentary elections, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili leaves his party facing life in the opposition for the first time since 2003. But with the country laying claim to its first-ever electorally determined political transition, the dynamic 44-year-old leader has also taken a major step toward securing his legacy as the man who brought democracy to Georgia.
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The leader of the coalition that won Georgia’s parliamentary elections has called on Mikheil Saakashvili to resign ahead of schedule despite widespread praise for the 44-year-old president's handling of an election defeat that sets in motion that country's first-ever democratic handover of power.

Billionaire businessman Bidzina Ivanishvili, leader of the Georgian Dream movement, said Saakashvili had made many mistakes and should resign one year ahead of schedule and order an early presidential election.

"I think Saakashvili will be able to resign on his own," Ivanishvili said. "The way I see it is that after his statement today, his next step -- and the only right step -- would be to resign of his own accord and call a presidential election."

Ivanishvili also told his October 2 press conference in Tbilisi that a new government led by his coalition would continue Saakashvili’s policy toward European integration and eventual NATO membership.

Ivanishvili's remarks came after Saakashvili conceded that his United National Movement -- which has ruled the South Caucasus country since 2004 -- had been defeated in the October 1 parliamentary elections.

Saakashvili vowed that "as president, according to the constitution," he would assist the political transition and the launch of a new parliament and formation of a government.

Final preliminary results were expected to be announced on October 3.

A Georgian First?

A peaceful transfer of power would mark the first time since the 1991 Soviet collapse that the Georgian government had changed through an election rather than through revolution.

Georgia's Central Election Commission said with about 90 percent of votes counted on October 2 that Georgian Dream had won 54.8 percent of the vote. It said the United National Movement was trailing with some 40 percent.

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said the Georgian Dream opposition coalition's success showed the desire of the Georgian people for change.

In Washington, White House spokesman Jay Carney congratulated Georgia on the parliamentary elections calling the poll "another milestone in Georgia's democratic development."

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said, "We'd like to commend President Saakashvili and UNM for graciously conceding when they lost at the ballot box."

Maja Kocijancic, a spokeswoman for EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Catherine Ashton, applauded the election and called on those elected to serve the people who voted them into office.

"Catherine Ashton, the high representative, and [EU Enlargement] Commissioner [Stefan] Fuele on behalf of the EU, congratulate the Georgian Dream coalition on its election victory," Kocijancic said. "The Georgian people have now spoken, they look to their politicians to deliver in line with the mandate which they have been given. Both a responsible government and a constructive opposition are essential parts of a functioning democratic society."

Parting Shots

The official responsible for postconflict settlement in the Georgian breakaway territory of South Ossetia, Murat Dzhiyoev, said separatist authorities hope for dialogue with "positive forces" in Georgia.

The deputy foreign minister of the Georgian separatist territory of Abkhazia, Irakli Khintba, declined to comment on what he called "the internal political situation in a foreign country."

Abkhazia and South Ossetia broke away from Georgia at the end of the brief Georgian-Russian conflict in August 2008.

Only Russia and a handful of other countries have recognized the independence of those Georgian territories.

Ivanishvili said on October 2 that he supported the restoration of Georgia's territorial integrity, but he also said he wanted to normalize relations with neighbors, "including Russia."

With additional reporting by Interfax and Rustavi TV
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by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
October 02, 2012 19:31
Only today Ivanishvili said he is for restoration of national integrity of Georgian territory, forever it means.
By help of Mother Russia, "Bidziya" Russia?
I asked at very beginning Ivanishvili where he stands on this,
he never told his plans - he still avoiding it by "cazuisticly" worded promiss.

Georgians might hope so.
They relied on aggrement between Peter the Great and his Georgian unkle, the King - it ended with two Centuries of destruction of Ibero-Caucasian Civilization.

It simce they believe the idealized Stalin and "Parliament of Nationalities" friendship with Russian people, always underminded by Russia and burried under piles of lying dirt.

Is Russia plans to invade again and totaly all South Caucasus?
Is Ivanishvili to create confusion and accomodate Russia?

I testify:
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In 2008 Russians enbedded spies into my apartment, making
my mother sick, poisoning her and working arround her as
"care-takers".
While Russian armies were preparing to invade Georgia,
they destroyed my files and computers and I heared them reporting by by mobil phone that I would not interfere, sending letters or writing on Forums that All World and "Bashka" was silenced, and Russian army could invade and conquer Georgia", accompanning it by dirty and bloody Russian army language.
The same day Russia invaded.
Russian proxy Alasania was procrastunating.
I found some old files, repared an old computer and send letters to McCain and UN.
Further Russian invasion was stopped.
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Russia was furrious, they blaimed Saakashvili for resistance
and for some Russian invaders and half-breed children of rape by Russian army spies of Boldyrev being killed in forthresses
arround Tchinvali, by Georgian peacekeepers braking through their fire to defend Tbilisi road.
Medvedev and Putin are still furrious and vindictive, they want Saakashvili and all free-minded Georgians dead or being
stinked-out by nerve gas "Cheremushka".
It simce "Bidzia Russia" feel the same way.

As for me, same Russia-CIA amalgamated murdering me for
denying them for the time being plunder and repopulate Georgia with all South Caucasus.
They intencified killing me and my mother since 2008,
7/7/2012 they bestially murdered my mother - all Russians and their Quislings in my apartment building and "relatives" were vctoriously-vindictivly participating, planing and covering-up the murder.
Who becide Putin And his Russia gave concent for murder?
Who gave consent on behalf of Georgia to do it?
Saakashvili?
Ivanishvili?
Alasania?
Or Lavrusha and Lazar' that since 1947 let Russians and USSR Babilonian Quislings to torture and plagiarize me there and
in USA, for Great Russia and for "Kosher" pork "bitochki"?
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by: Nick from: USA
October 03, 2012 07:48
I don't know what your definition of free minded is, but it is not a good one at all. An increasingly oppressive regime had to be pushed aside and that is exactly what the free minded people in Georgia did. While we do not support alliances with Russia we do not support directed hate because hate never ever solves any problem. Hate won't reunite Georgia love will and that is exactly what these elections were about.
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by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
October 04, 2012 06:08
I meant free Georgians that at the critical moment would fight,
Like Georgian peacekeepers that slowed Russian invaders.
If you mean just "free expression" and voting, it is also rigt.
However, Russia and its Ivanishvili-Alasania "submissers"
Say resistance to obliteration unthinkable - be beter died.

As for Free elections - I encourage, increasingly for years,
It has and is, if not Bidziya's Russia push, comprehencive
Ballance of Saaka's supporters restoring in Georgian land
Nationhood, statehood, international relation and defences,
Need increasingly improve lifes and participation of people.

It lead to multi-party victory this time - unfortunatly Russia,
Using old assets, like Ivanishvili, Alasania and provocation,
Reactivating "Lavrusha" and their spies at prison parasha,
Trying use it as bribing people and USA by promisses fan,
Deepen possibility of even larger Russia in CIS expansion.

Read Chauvinistic Lev Tolstoy's article on uprising in "Guria",
To understand hate of Medvedev and Putin, bettig on Ivanishvili.
Russia would never let anybody try Russia for any crime - they
murder for it, as they did to me and to my mother, and to her parents and to many of my father's relatives in Abkhazia
in 1992-93...

by: Neil from: Tbilisi
October 02, 2012 19:48
the comments by Bidzina on Misha's resignation show he is the idiot he is portrayed as. Rather than focusing on taking control and governing the country, he is destabilizing the situation and focusing people on something that is less important than creating jobs and growth in the economy. The guy is looking like a Russian stooge too early
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
October 03, 2012 06:34
Neil, please have a look at the comments made by Andrew from Auckland: he is arguing that the arrival of Ivanischwili is a blessing for the US and their friends and is just another confirmation of the Georgian "Euro-Atlantic orientation" :-)).
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by: Andrew from: Auckland
October 07, 2012 05:06
Eugenio, your sub-simian level of intelligence is showing.
Could you at least show some common human decency by spelling the mans name correctly, it is Ivanishvili.

And, once again, Ivanishvili has stated his commitment to Georgia joining NATO & the EU, and his first overseas visit will be to the US...

"Georgian Dream leader, Bidzina Ivanishvili, met with NATO Liaison Officer in Tbilisi, William Lahue, and reiterated his coalition’s commitment to NATO integration.

He said after the meeting that agenda of Georgia-NATO relations were discussed “in details” and added that the NATO representative “assured us that we have a good chance of joining NATO.”"
http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=25319

"“My first visit [abroad] will be in Washington,” Ivanishvili said, adding that it would be “better and more effective” if this visit takes place after the presidential election in the United States in November.......
Ivanishvili says that integration to NATO and the EU would be his government’s priorities; he also says that in parallel he will try to normalize relations with Russia and also will try to convince Moscow that Georgia’s NATO membership poses no threat to Russia."
http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=25310

So Eugenie, get your facts right....oh sorry, your obviously low level of education and intelligence precludes that I guess.
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
October 07, 2012 08:11
:-))) Primitive Anglo Untermensch from Auckland, for your information, there is NO "CORRECT" WAY of spelling names written in Georgian (or to that matter any other non-Latin) alphabet. Anglo, it's just that different languages - including your primitive one - have different phonetics, and - depending on which one of the languages that use the Latin alphabet one choses to write an originally non-Latin alphabet name in, spelling can will different. So, for the name of the person who kicked the ... of your friend Mischa the other week, the spelling options are: Ivanischwili (German spelling), Ivanichvili (French spelling), Ivanishvili (the spelling in the primitive language of Beavuses and Buttheads) etc etc etc.
But of course, no one can really expect you - a Beavus who managed to successfully acomplish 4 years of primary education in which you only learned to take drugs, like most of your compatriots, to understand this simple fact of life.
Cheers from Vienna!
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by: Camel Anaturk from: Kurdistan
October 07, 2012 13:27
EU Genio from `Vienna` and Jack from the US SR-the Beavus and Butthead of Komsomol KGB kommissar posters promise most earnestly that on the occasion of the birthday of their spiritual mother and father and sister and brother prez. Putanin they wont write any posts for a whole day long and that is not because they are punch drunk with free vodka and selyodka and cannot spell their names correctly and Vakhtang stole their pokhmelin /hangover cure/ pills and as soon as we they come to their senses on the 12th of never they shall continue their fight against the west and world imperialism and and and ,,,to be continued...876331
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
October 08, 2012 04:37
The main issue in Georgia is to isolate people like camel.These people are dangerous to a civilized society.Аtrophied brains of camel, do not give him a chance to delve into the essence...It is clear that the camel needs medical examination...
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
October 08, 2012 04:37
Ah, yes, and I would also like to congratulate the nation of Beavuses and Buttheads on the occasion of their other great victory: yesterday (Sunday) the President of Venezuela Hugo Rafael Chávez Frias was reelected for another period of six years (2013-2019) with 54,42% against the candidate of the Empire, Henrique Capriles Radonski, who managed an impressive 44,97% :-))).
So, it allows one to kind of start summing up the "achievements" of the US in the year 2012:
(a) the reelection of Vladimir Putin as the President of Russia;
(b) the continued imprisonment of the former orange pro-US ruling clique in Ukraine;
(c) the ouster of the pro-US govt of Tadic in Serbia;
(d) the humiliating defeat of the puddle of the democratically-elected US president George W in Georgia;
(e) the reelection of Chávez as the President of Venezuela;
(f) and I am not even mentioning the never ending successes of Beavuses and Buttheads in such places as Afghanistan and Lybia.
Looking at this list of achievements, one can only wonder what the remaining 2,5 months of this year will bring us :-)).
Source on Venezuela: http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/55393-primeros-resultados-escrutinio-auguran-victoria-chavez

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
October 03, 2012 04:47
Whether Putin is ready and wants to see any relationship with Georgia?

Concerning the final part of the report:

Suppose Georgia agrees to the presence of Russian military bases in Abkhazia...
Putin is ready to begin disarm аbkhaz criminals,arrest аbkhaz thugs and evicting them from Georgian houses and flats??
Putin is ready to dismantle bandits аbkhaz thieving base ? Can he prohibit аbkhaz bandits preach racism and apartheid?

I doubt very much that he wants to-))))

On the other hand Georgians need a conversation with him, that would finally make it clear that Putin's actions- this is not his personal hatred of Saakashvili, but his hatred of the Georgian women and children..

We see in the words of the bandit Khintba, that аbkhaz criminals are not going to change anything that is why the international community, together with Ivanishvili should to announce to the world that Abkhazia and South Ossetia should be equated with the Pol Pot Chikatilo and they should be removed from civilized field...
Time to call bandits bandits,maniacs maniacs...
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by: Nick from: USA
October 03, 2012 07:52
So you are telling me to commit genocide and eradicate them all? that makes you look like a bandit and maniac in case you did not realize. You can't reunite a country by force and force them to love you, the only reasonable thing to do is to love and hope to be loved back.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
October 08, 2012 04:53
You're not in the subject Nick ..
The conflict between Georgians and Abkhazians can be resolved only in dictatorship of the law...that is missing and is not expected..
Abkhazians live by the laws of racism marauding -predatory psychology and nothing is going to change..
The so-called Abkhaz society is based on the philosophy of thieves and predatory.
So without violence (unfortunately) such conflicts are not solved..Pacifism discredited itself long ago..Following your logic, Hitler had to be persuaded through love-))))

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by: David from: Los Angeles
October 19, 2012 19:33
Vakhtang, the Georgian who claims to be from Moscow, is lying as usual. You obviously know next to nothing about modern day Abkhazia. Not sure what your reasoning for such stupidity is, except if only to disprove ignorant readers of this site of Abkhazia's credibility. Let me be clear about one thing: I've presented facts and figures about both Georgia and Abkhazia to several dozens of people in the past year. Guess which side 95% of people decided to swing for? That's right, Abkhazia. Why? Because your lies caught up with you. Before you call anyone else a bunch of thieves and predators, take a long hard look at your people and how you treat visitors, minorities, and anyone that you deem sub-human. No wonder Georgians are the scum of the Caucasus.
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by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
October 20, 2012 05:19
"You obviously know next to nothing about modern day Abkhazia. ..."
------------------ apsua David....

Tens of thousands of apartments and houses
of
Armenians,
Jews,
Russian,
Estonian,
Georgian and Megrels occupied by abkhaz criminals- who killed many owners. thousands of war criminals аpsua guilty of murder of civilians also live there...

80% of housing in Abkhazia does not belong to аpsua аbkhazians

under the laws of the аpuan-аbkhazians- all nationalities living in Abkhazia are second-class citizens..except of course аbkhazians themselves (аrticle 49 of the сonstitution of Abkhazia..)
аpsua live exclusively for the money of Putin (Russian taxpayers) he sends it to them and they steal i...without this money аpsua will die of hunger...
Thousands of people from Russia risked relax in Abkhazia were robbed, some were killed..
All аpsua adolescents train constantly how to rob, steal, kill..

Abkhazia has become a cesspool of gangs where the life of normal people in danger

apsua David...
Los Angeles is a captured Georgian house?..or cave near the Kuban River, from where аpsua migrated to Abkhazia?...

by: Jack from: US
October 07, 2012 15:10
should anyone care about third-world country like rump "republic of Georgia", where GDP per capita is less than in Angola and which exists solely at the expense of US taxpayers?
No matter what Ivanishvilli is up to, the only viable option for the failed entity like rump republic of Georgia is to break into 3-4 parts so that no single crazed US-propped freedom fighter in Tbilisi can screw up everyone there for 20 more years

by: Jack from: US
October 08, 2012 15:04
my uncles helped liberate Abkhazia from Georgian thugs during 1990-1993. My mother says "republic of Georgians" were so afraid of Chechens they ran away just on rumor there were Chechens in an area. My mother is Chechen and she is now Christian because she saw how retarded Islam is. "Republic of Georgians" are originally Muslims, Russians converted some of them to Christianity but deep down inside "republic of Georgians" are Muslim. That explains a lot
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by: Mika from: Lebanon
October 19, 2012 19:35
You are right, and even they were Shi'a Muslims thanks to their close relationship with Persians and there are 4 million ethnic Georgians living in Iran who are Muslims. This is because their people originated from Iran and moved to the Caucasus, brought there as slaves to work for Armenians and Abkhaz kingdoms. That's why they claiming other people's histories and lands, cuz this is how they will justify their presence in the region. But we all know these are lies made from desperate attempts to cover up these truths. Even Georgians were almost never ruled by their own people, always from Armenians, Abkhaz, Russians, and others.
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by: Jack from: US
October 19, 2012 20:50
true. My mother says Chechens should liberate republic of Georgia from US-installed freedom fighters. Georgians will be better off if Chechens rule them because Chechens will create law and order. My father who was Russian soldier during 1990-ies, he says there will be no problem