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Latvians Reject Russian As Second Language

Latvia held a controversial referendum on whether to make Russian its second official language
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Near-complete official results of a Latvian referendum showed that 75 percent of voters had rejected the plan to change the constitution and introduce Russian as an official second language in the country.
 
Official figures show that the turnout was 70 percent, making the February 18 referendum the most popular in Latvian history.
 
The chairman of Latvia's Central Election Commission, Arnis Cimdars, told RFE/RL that the “turnout was even bigger that during the parliamentary elections, which traditionally have the highest turnout numbers.”
 
Latvian is the mother tongue of 62 percent of the population, or some 1.2 million people. In contrast, over 250 million people speak Russian worldwide.
 
Latvian Prime Minister Valdis Dombrovskis told RFE/RL that he voted “No.”
 
 “Of course I have voted against. From the very beginning, this initiative came from marginal groups and it in no way helped to unite society,” Dombrovskis said.
 
The campaign to introduce Russian as the country’s official second language was organized by members of Latvia's ethnic-Russian minority and constituted 25 percent of the referendum vote.
 
Russian-language activist Vladimirs Lindermans, the head of the Native Tongue organization, played down what had been a widely expected defeat. He told Latvian state channel LTV1 that the purpose of the referendum was “to start a dialogue and that dialogue has now started.”
 
Russia: Not Fair Reflection

The Kremlin, which has spoken publicly in support of the Russian-speaking population in the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, downplayed the results of the referendum.
 
Russia said on February 19 it did not view the referendum as a fair reflection of people's sentiments in Latvia.
 
Russia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that the “referendum's results far from fully reflect national sentiments because 319,000 [Russian-speaking] 'non-citizens' were denied the right to express their opinion.”
 
The statement also expressed "bewilderment" that Latvia's election authorities did not grant a team from Russia's Kremlin-run Public Chamber the status of official referendum observers.
 
Latvia regained its independence in 1991 after five decades of Soviet occupation. A 2011 census showed that 27 percent of its 2 million-strong population are Russian speakers.
 
Many Latvians consider Russian -- the lingua franca of the Soviet Union -- as the language of the former occupiers. They also harbor deep mistrust toward Russia and worry that Moscow will try to wield influence in Latvia through the ethnic Russian minority.
 
Russian speakers who settled in Latvia during the Soviet era did not get Latvian passports automatically after independence and were required to pass a language test. Official Latvian estimates show that 290,000 people have failed the language test and remain "non-citizens."

Compiled from agency reports
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by: Anonymous from: Planet Earth
February 19, 2012 07:38
Just another attempt to Russify the Baltics...thank God it was defeated. It is absurd for Russian Latvians who live a few miles from the Russian border to say they are marginalized. Can you imagine Mexicans living in the southern part of US trying to get Spanish adopted as a second language? It would be a "green light" for them to quit speaking English or to not even try to learn the language.
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by: Frank
February 20, 2012 13:47
Leave it to RFE/RL to downplay the many people in Latvia who were denied the right to vote.

The term "Russification" is culturally biased as evidenced by the level of popularity of a good number of non-Russian languages in the former USSR, when compared to the limited use of Gaelic in Ireland and Scotland. Yet, "Angloization" isn't as popular a term as "Russification."

For accuracy sake, it's too bad that Rusisan government involved/funded English language media/PR efforts haven't done such a great job in levelling the playing field.

Then again, the best possible pro-Russian advocacy isn't encouraged by Western mass media.
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by: rick from: Milan
February 20, 2012 17:19
Do you know that in USA
Louisiana , New Messico and Hawaii
are official bilingual ?

For Louisiana the second language is French

For Hawaii the second language is Hawaiian

and for New Mexico ....

what will it be second official language for the new mexico ....

uhmmm ..... may be that .....

may be that the second language is Spanish!?!?

Bingo!

New Mexico is officially bilingual

and second language is spanish !

And soon

You can be sure that even in California and Florida

will be recognized as a second language Spanish

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by: Anonymous from: Planet Earth
February 21, 2012 02:05
Nice try rick! Latvia is a sovereign state. New Mexico, Louisiana, California, etc. are not. The WHOLE US will not accept Spanish as a second language.
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by: Rick
February 21, 2012 17:09
USa is a confederation,

where there is federal legislation

and one from each state that is in the confederation

So

depending on topics

those USA confederal states are sovereign like is Latvia


Among those topics

there is also the linguistic determination


As such those confederal states

can chose for having or not the death penalty

etc. etc. etc.


But here the point is not the law or sovereignty

it is the common sense!

by: Eugenio from: Vienna
February 19, 2012 09:29
I would say that more than 20 per cent of the people in Latvia voting in favor of the Russian as the second official language is a good result, given that it's just the first run. It reminds me of the first referendum in Québec on the question of independence from Canada - held in about 1980. Back then some 30 per cent of people voted in favor. Then, during the second referendum in 1995, it was already 49 of people who voted in favor.
So, it's all just a matter of time, guys - the essential thing in this referendum here was for the minorities in Latvia to make the greater intl public know that there is a language problem in the country and that more than 1/5 of its population is determined to fight against the attempts of the majority to "latvify" them. And this has been achieved, judging, for example, by the vivid discussion on the issue on this forum.
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by: anonymous from: London
February 19, 2012 15:02
Don't comment if you don't know the full story!
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
February 19, 2012 17:27
Could you be a little more precise as to what exactly you mean by the "full story"?
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by: Anonymous from: USA
February 19, 2012 19:57
What's "all a matter of time"? What are these Russian minorities going to do, declare independence from Latvia? Have you looked at a map to see how small Latvia is? Also, comparing the situation with Canada is flawed because Canada is not a tiny country bordering Britain or France. The other Anonymous comment is more accurate comparing Russian Latvians with Mexican illegals. All they have to do is cross the border to leave!
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by: Will from: USA
February 20, 2012 10:12
Russians are not illegals in the country. They were born and lived all their lives in Latvia. So keep your illegal Mexicans analogy to yourself.
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
February 20, 2012 18:59
To WILL and ANONYMOUS from USA: I think, Will, that the Mexican analogy of the Anonymous is very revealing in the sense that it show the extent to which the kind of linguistic legislation existing in Latvia is INEFFICIENT and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. So, you live in the US, you know better than anyone that no legislation has made and will never make the Mexicans living in California or Texas speak any language other than SPANISH. The same way - and this is obvious from a number of comments on this forum - no legislation has prevented the Russians living in Latvia stick to their native language. TO THE CONTRARY, the linguistic (and other form of persecution) on the part of the Latvian majority has brought about the POLITICAL CONSOLIDATION of the Russian-speaking minority in Latvia, which led to that in the last parl. elections (2011) the Russian party called "Harmony Center" has become the biggest political force in the Latvian parliament FOR THE FIRST TIME in the last 20 years.
The above shows that this kind of legislation - instead of promoting the Latvian language - makes ethno-linguistic minorities MORE ASSERTIVE in rejecting it, which is the contrary of what the legislation authors' inteded to achieve. Thus, the legislation is completely counterproductive. Wait for the next elections in Latvia and you will see the Russian-speakers enter the country's govt for the first time (after they have for the first time secured the control of the cityhall of the country's capital Riga a couple of years ago).
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by: rick
February 20, 2012 22:19
if you put a lion in a corner

it will jump over you
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by: Anonymous from: USA
February 21, 2012 02:31
@ Will
Russians in Latvia ARE illegals as long as they do not have Latvian citizenship. They are SOVIET RUSSIANS who refuse to assimilate just like Muslims in Western Europe. Learning the language and culture of another country is often required to become a citizen. It might also be worth mentioning that Latvia is primarily a Lutheran country with historic ties to Germany. Only the Russians living there are Orthodox. It's more than just a language dispute, it's religious and cultural as well.

@Eugenio the Gringo Hater
You make it sound like Russian-speakers are going to overtake the country in the next election. They are a minority in a small country. This overwhelming rejection of the Russian language may be a bad sign for those at Riga city hall.
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by: Anonymous
February 21, 2012 17:41
could be your future child illegal
if one day your government decides that ?

Could be illegal a Texan
if one day Texas will return under the jurisdiction of Mexico ?

You have to understand that something
is entering in a state as immigrant

other and very different
is always living in a region
that then , only then
become an independent state
in which the ethnic majority
(that was previously a minority)

decides that you are not citizen of that state!

This in south africa was called Hapartaid !


I had an uncle who was born in Dalmatia,
he has Venetian origins as many in Dalmatia.

He was born under the Austro-Hungarian Empire,
and also if was italian he serves army of Franz Joseph I von Österreich

then after WW I he became Italian

then after WW II he became Yugoslavian

then after 1990 he became Croatian

and finally before to die he was back to his Italian origin .

And never, ever anyone told him
that he was not a citizen of one of those 4 countries


So .... what we can understand by this history ?

For exemple that multi-ethnic state exist in 1800 / early 1900
when we thought that the principles of human rights were not respected

whereas now
In time in which we like to fill our mouths with principles and humans rights
really no one respects them
when is trying to create or defend
a new state
on a MONO-ethnic bases

(kosovo , bosnia , latvia , estonian , lithuanian ecc ecc )

So we are denying all those beautiful principles
of humanity and brotherhood
of tolerance and understanding between peoples

that we like so much to sing
but we don't like to respect !

by: Rick
February 19, 2012 16:13
It easy when
"""319,000 [Russian-speaking] 'non-citizens' were denied the right to express their opinion.”"""

by: Anonymous
February 19, 2012 16:20
anyway

it would be good if

in Lithuania as in Estonia and Estonia

starts thinking that they are in Eu

and that EU has some principles on its basis

like this:

European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Charter_for_Regional_or_Minority_Languages

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