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Pakistani Militant's 'Demonic' Tattoo Proves...Nothing

A Taliban militant who was killed during a gun battle in Peshawar was found to have an elaborate tattoo on his back.
A Taliban militant who was killed during a gun battle in Peshawar was found to have an elaborate tattoo on his back.
Boris Vallejo's fantasy artwork has appeared in -- and on -- almost every medium possible. He has illustrated countless book covers and comic books, as well as ad campaigns for Old Spice, Carlsberg beer, and others. And, as a simple Google search shows, Vallejo's work has also inspired tattoo enthusiasts the world over. 

In Pakistan, however, one apparent Vallejo fan was revealed who would likely make the artist cringe. A photo by Reuters shows a dead militant involved in a brazen attack on the Bacha Khan International Airport in Peshawar with an unfinished Vallejo tribute tattooed on his back.

"The Express Tribune" ran the story with the headline, "Attacker’s Demonic Tattoo Draws Fresh TTP Conclusions," which doesn't leave the reader with much room for interpretation.

Read for yourself: 

Tattoo experts say the image on the militant’s body symbolizes evil. “Skulls, in my opinion, are demonic representations, but only in visualization. They represent strength, rebelliousness, and serious drawbacks,” said a Lahore-based tattoo artist.

“Mostly people who get such tattoos want to give out a message that they defy death, those who have seen death very closely, including criminals, gangsters and even rock stars,” he said on condition of anonymity.

About the tattoo on the militant’s body, he said, “It looks 10 to 12 years old. The outlines, curves and shading clearly tell that it has not been made by an expert.”

A Karachi-based tattoo artist concurred. “Mostly, criminals and gangsters get such tattoos made on their bodies,” said the artist who works at a tattoo parlor. He also spoke on condition of anonymity.

The article -- and a lot of comments on Twitter and Pakistani blogs -- paints a picture of tattooed people as miscreants and worse. The piece notes security forces' claims that the attackers were "foreign fighters" and that the tattoo shows how the fighters are actually un-Islamic.

But, as blogger Iftikhar Zaidi notes -- also at "The Express Tribune" -- tattoos are hardly uncommon among fighters in the region and, perhaps more importantly, tattoos are permanent and the inked-up militant's unfinished tribute could thus be a "mistake" of the distant past.

As for the specific piece, it may be a picture of a demon, but to label it as "demonic" may be a bit much. Vallejo's work in fantasy -- and the genre generally -- may depict demons and gods of all shapes and sizes, but as interviews with the artist reveal, he is hardly a raging satanist.

-- Zach Peterson
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by: Ali from: karachi
December 17, 2012 17:03

by: Saeed from: Rawalpindi
December 17, 2012 19:23
Mr Zach,I Wish You Had Studied Islam and The Region More Carefully.Taliban As Much As We Know Them Do Not Wear Tattoos.It Is Prohibited In Islam.Also This Is Not Common In An Ultra Conservative Region Like FATA or Afghanistan. There Is Every Reason To Be Suspicious
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by: pakistani banda from: pakistan
December 18, 2012 00:53
my friend, the person could be a former non-muslim.

These people are from countries like uzbekistan, tajikistan, kazakhstan etc where there are a fair amount of non-muslims.

This guy could be from one of those who later converted to Islam and joined taliban.

But unfortunately the tattoo can not be removed and like mentioned in the article, the tattoo is estimated to be 10-12yrs old.

There was one very popular lecturer on peace tv who was a convert who had tattoos all over his body...But he got those a long time ago when he was a non-muslim. So the tattoo here signifies nothing. there is no evil illuminati zionist cia raw conspiracy here.
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by: Saman from: Pakistan
December 18, 2012 13:45
@pakistani banda i don't know why some people in Pakistan are trying to advocate for west sponsored Talibans that this cia handler or militiant was a Pkistani Muslim, stop betraying ummah wake up before it gets too late.
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by: pakistani banda from: pakistan
December 18, 2012 22:29
@saman: I have already mentioned that these people are not pakistani, they come from uzbekistan, tajikistan, kazakhstan etc..
In those countries there is a significant non-muslim population.
The man with tattoo on his back could have been a non-muslim who converted to Islam and then joined taliban.
Please read more carefully. Also read the article more carefully. It makes sense.
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by: OJ from: Karachi
December 18, 2012 03:59
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by: b from: karaci
December 19, 2012 15:20
ahan defending west countires accept that thing TTp are the proxies of CIA and RAW
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by: Zach Peterson from: Prague
December 18, 2012 09:57
Saeed, I am indeed not an Islamic scholar. But, I would point out that Surat Al-Furqan (25:70-71) says that all prior sins are forgiven and absolved if someone converts to Islam. This tattoo could be from an earlier time, and the dead man could be a convert. That does not necessarily mean that the person is a foreigner. There are non-Muslims in Pakistan too.

Thanks for reading.

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by: Haseeb from: UAE
December 18, 2012 20:57
Zach you are right in quoting this verse from the Quran. The reason why there is a debate on this at all is because The brand of Islam that the Taliban is trying to impose has no room from past "mistakes" let alone tattoos on one of thier fighters especially a skull one. Although Islam leaves room for such mistakes of the past to be forgiven. The Taliban have made it clear that they dont. then it is suspicious why one of their fighters had the tattoo. this image castes doubt on the Taliban itself and makes one wonder what really is at play here with ISI, CIA, Mossad and RAW involved. people merely debating about the attacker's religion are to naive to conclude a deeper meaning from it and need asses themselves on what has been there contribution to stop this menace from consuming our country.

by: Peter from: America
December 17, 2012 20:35
Zach Peterson,

Can you please prove what you are saying, whta ever explanation you have tried to give is baseless and False, you mentioned go to google and search - Vallejo, I did not find a single thing related to this matter.
I think we should follow a straight policy, accept our mistakes and stop killing innocent Muslims.
Instead of giving stupid explanation.
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by: Zach Peterson from: Prague
December 18, 2012 09:59
Just follow the hyperlink in the article for the Vallejo-inspired tattoo pics.

I have never killed another human in my life, and I will likely never do so.

Thanks for reading.

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by: Saeed from: Rawalpindi
December 19, 2012 08:53
I Think What Peter Is Saying Is The Complete Masscre Of Innocent Muslims Done By USA's so called 'War On Terror' He Is Not Calling You a Murderer But Is Condemning The Policies Of The Western Governments.

Pakistan Has Suffered The Most In This WoT.Not A Single Person From Pakistan Was Involved In 9\11 Yet The Lives Of 60000 Pakistanis Have Been Lost In Terrorism.Pakistanis Have Suffered So Much.But Still Pakistan is Labelled As A Global Centre Of Terror.USA Does All The Lucative Trade and Technology Deals With It's Regional Rival India and Only Tells Pakistan to 'Do More'.It Is Evident That The Long Term Interests Of The US are With India and They Are Only Using Pakistan Army as A Mercenaries.
With All This Can You Blame The Pakistani Government Of Being Non Cooperative.
And With All The Rampant Anti Americanism In Light Of The Above Can You Blame Pakistanis For Feeling The Way They Feel

BTW These Terrorists Were The Creation Of USA in The 80s.It Was Due To CIA That in The Name Of Jihad Against The USSR Heroine and Kalashinkov Culture Came and Ruined The Fabric Of Our Society With Extremism.Those Westerners Who Travelled To PAKISTAN in The 70s Will Know That Karachi Was Called The Paris of The East.It Had Casinos and Night Clubs Like Beirut.Historically Pakistanis Society Was Peceful Liberal Sufi Society Influenced By The Teachings of Rahman Baba and Shah Abdul Latif Bhitai. No More :(

by: Ali from: Ludhiana
December 17, 2012 21:18
The article doesn't take into account the fact that tattoos are forbidden in Islamic cultures and animal or human shapes in art are specially frowned upon. It is the choice of the culture whatever means correct to a westerner doesn't need to be acceptable to others.

by: Anonymous
December 17, 2012 21:20
that jerk artist is blind to see secret societies and their symbols ...surely Allah wont give hidaya to people when they actully not deserve for it.

by: KHALIL from: Dubai
December 17, 2012 21:32

by: Imran Ali from: Rawalpindi,Pakistan
December 17, 2012 21:36
This article was written without having the basic information about Islam.Tattoos are strongly prohibited in Islam. That is your prayers are not accepted if you have any kind of written or drawn thing on your body. So to say that Taliban are ready to die for Islam but not ready to perform Prayer(namaz) is absolutely ridiculous. So the end story is there is no way this person can be "extremist".
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by: Zach Peterson from: Prague
December 18, 2012 10:01

Surat Al-Furqan (25:70-71) says that all prior sins are absolved if the sinner converts to Islam. Perhaps this person was a convert.

Thanks for reading

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by: Imran Ali from: Rawalpindi,Pakistan
January 07, 2013 11:07
Yes it is a possibility but the thing is that if you are going to die for the "Religion" then you are at least required to perform the Basic religious matter in that case in Islam is 5 times prayer a day. As you also Quoted the Quran's Verse which is also true. But in that case his prayers after becoming the Muslim are not accepted as having a tattoo on his body. So the Tattoo should have been removed(in this case we are mentioning when he become the Muslim not before). As tattoo removing required sometimes surgery which is very expensive so then he must have been told to tempered the tattoo so that it cannot be seen as satanic symbol. But to say that you can still have the old things after you become the Muslim is unacceptable. Mr Zach Peterson you are not understanding the simple matter because you don't want to, as you have already made your mind that Muslims are terrorist and everything bad that happens in the world is done by Muslims.Think for a second..........!
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by: RD from: Canada
December 20, 2012 18:38
What a stupid explanation. you guys just don't have any logic. you say the killed guy has tattoo so he can't be Muslim. I have seen so may Muslim boys in west having tattoos. British jails are filled with Muslim men having tattoos on them. Theft,murder,rape,lying etc are all prohibited in Islam so none of these things happen in Muslim countries. Christianity also prohibits evil things so there is still crime in Christian societies. You guys just want to close your eyes like an ostrich and hide your head in a hole. Read history my friend. Its filled with Muslims killing Muslims and Christian killing Christians. And by the way can you quote a single verse from Qur'an where it says tattoos are prohibited?
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by: Imran Ali from: Rawalpindi,Pakistan
January 07, 2013 11:29
Well Mr.RD try to understand the simple logic. The Taliban we know are very extremist in their point of view. These Taliban cant even think to tolerate the violation of Islamic rules. So having tattoo in any case is not acceptation. Yes all the things like theft, Rape and Lying are prohibited in Islam, so thats why in years we haven't heard Taliban doing that.ok. And Muslim in west don't live like Taliban. Yes Taliban kill Muslims its true but to say that every attack on Muslims in Afghanistan or Pakistan is done by the Taliban is not true at all. AfPak has become a very complex region. Almost all the major worlds Intelligence agencies are operating here. You cant simplify things very easily. We have found very strong evidence of non Muslim presence in border region who are fighting in Taliban's cover. try to search on net then you will know. And about your last question, i found the answer in Hadees i.e It was narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) cursed the one who does tattoos, the one who has a tattoo done, the one who consumes riba (usury or interest) and the one who pays it, and he forbade the price of a dog and the earnings of a prostitute, and he cursed the image-makers.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5032).

by: Mohsin from: Islamabad
December 17, 2012 21:45
Dear Mr.Zach Peterson, For an instance I agree that these evidences prove nothing, but what about the weapons of Mass Destruction in IRAQ. What about the dead Body of USAMA. USA and coalition spent Trillions of Dollars (TAX money paid by common people) on the name of war on terror yet you didn't get to see the dead body of your greatest enemy.
For your kind information, this fact is open and visible to all the Pakistani and Muslim arround the world that whatever going in this world right now is being controlled and executed by the satanic forces residing in USA, and even your media and some learned people are well aware about that. What about the peter joseph; bohemian groove, farenheit 9/11, loose change, micheal moore. You are being looted and enslaved physically & mentaly for centuries, you are given all the luxuries and liberties at the cost of someone else's blood. This is how you rule and became self proclaimed super power. All talibans residing in Pakistan and
fighting against the Pakistani Army are satanists and demonic filths. We hate them, they are the ones ruining the real picture of islam and helping your godfather's agendas. Till our last breath we are not going to let this Happen.
We have beaten the Russian, We have Screwed the Indian, With the God's help on our side. We can repeat this with USA's satanic Regime.
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by: Satan from: Everywhere
December 20, 2012 15:06

by: fereha
December 18, 2012 02:08
i think u miss the point sir. Pakistan does not produce tattoed talibans.There is nothing home grown abt this terrorism.Other reports of uncurcumscised bodies suggest imported fundamentalists. This picture raises a thousand questions your analysis proves nothing.
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by: Najeeb from: Islamabad
December 18, 2012 18:33
Brilliant reply :)
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by: Imarn Ali from: Rawalpindi
January 07, 2013 11:32
Doesn't matter how good the reply is, they don't want to listen our point of view they already have decided that Muslims are terrorists.......!

by: IV47 from: Pakistan
December 18, 2012 03:28
LOL. Now media is trying to hide the identity of this American Tehreek Taliban handler. Taliban don't believe in having tattoos on their bodies, but Americans, esp mercenaries and agents like in XE services love to have. It's clear that who is pulling the strings from behind, US is handling tehreek taliban to create havoc in Pakistan through suicide bombings, Raymond Davis was also caught trying to transfer enriched Uranium to Talibans, so they can blame all this on Pakistan, go to UN, and say, OMG, OMG, Pakistan is not safe, Talibans can get the Pakistani Nukes, let's snatch nukes form Pakistan. Bloody fabricators !!!!!
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