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Podcast: Russia's Fragile Federation

Is he creating a self-fulfilling prophecy?
Is he creating a self-fulfilling prophecy?

It's the Kremlin's worst nightmare. That the Russian Federation shares the fate of the Soviet Union and disintegrates.

Far-fetched? Yeah, probably. But the fear appears to be honestly felt.

And as calls for regional autonomy get louder and bolder -- from Kaliningrad to Siberia, from Karelia to Tatarstan -- Vladimir Putin's regime has moved to further tighten the screws. And this is only serving to spark more resentment in the regions.

Are the Kremlin's fears of federalism making its biggest fear more likely?

On the latest Power Vertical Podcast, we discuss Russia's fragile federation. Joining me are co-host Mark Galeotti, a professor at New York University, an expert on Russia's security services, and author of the blog In Moscow's Shadows; and longtime Russia-watcher Paul Goble, author of the blog Window on Eurasia.

Enjoy...

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by: George from: Belarus
August 07, 2015 19:40
I have a questions which others may be able to answer. Did Russia miss out on the Renaissance? The Age of Reason doesn't quite seem to have taken root in the country. Is it the Asiatic part of the Russian psyche which makes them think differently from people in western Europe? Or are they the same?
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by: GS from: United States
August 08, 2015 21:57
"I have a questions which others may be able to answer. Did Russia miss out on the Renaissance? "
-Yes. Read Max Weber and Richard Pipes on the "patrimonial states", which russia has always been and remains. What Renaissance?
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by: Bob
August 10, 2015 05:47
The Mongol subjugation period hindered Russia's development. At its zenith, Rus was an influential/progressive force.

The late Solzhenitsyn is better versus on this than Pipes. The latter is anti-Russian.

by: Albert from: New Zealand
August 08, 2015 01:34
We can only cross out fingers, and hope that yes, this time what remains of the Russian and Soviet imperial project will be finally neutered, as the Ottoman and Hapsburg empires were 100 years ago.
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by: George from: Belarus
August 08, 2015 20:03
Well, thank you, Albert the Kiwi. I will 'cross out fingers', as you recommend.
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by: Bob
August 10, 2015 05:49
The anti-Russian Ottoman/Habsburg instances haven't been totally swept aside.

It's great to see Russia diminish the Soviet past, while rightfully feeling proud of the pre-Soviet period.

by: Michael from: United Kingdom
August 08, 2015 22:13
I think Goble's point didn't come across very coherently. He just seemed to be saying expect the unexpected over and over. That's fine advice, but it's not great analysis; and when Galeotti offered his own counter-points Goble seemed to just brush them aside and even seemed to imply Mark didn't know what he was talking about. Whether that's correct or not the latter seemed a lot more convincing.
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by: Bob
August 10, 2015 05:51
Galeotti and Goble are intellectually limited in their respective scope, in a way that jives with the faulty RFE/RL slant..

by: Cosmopolitan
August 09, 2015 16:01
In the year 1600 The East India Company received monopoly rights on trade on East India and turned United Kingdom into an empire. The East India Company's biggest threat to their trade empire where tariffs and national sovereignty.

Today Transnational Corporations and International Banks are intertwined by ownership and joined in a global trade empire that controlls 80% of the global trade. The biggest threat to their trade empire are still tariffs and national sovereignty.

To protect their trade (access to energy, raw materials, labor and markets) and their private wealth (the 1% owns today $110 trillion, which is half of the global wealth) they have created supranational entities like the UN, WTO, IMF, World Bank, International Courts and International Law.

Russia is their nightmare scenario - A sovereign nation with a leader who can strip the wealth from its oligarch's and transfere the wealth to the state. A sovereign nation that places National Interests above International Law.
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by: Peter
August 10, 2015 02:55
Russia is everybody's nightmare scenario - a sovereign nation with a Tsar who can strip the wealth from its own oligarchs, citizens, state treasury, national economy, as well as from other countries' oligarchs, citizens, state treasuries, and national economies, and then transfer that wealth to the selfsame Tsar (or his cronies). A Tsar who places Personal Interests above either National Interests OR International Law.
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by: Andrew from: Brisbane
August 10, 2015 19:11
"A sovereign nation with a leader who can strip the wealth from its oligarch's and transfer the wealth to the state. A sovereign nation that places National Interests above International Law."

Like the communists did? like the fascists did? how did they all turn out? aren't their failures and legacy the very reason for all the inferiority complexes in post-1989 Europe, Russia included?
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by: Cosmopolitan
August 11, 2015 13:41
They all failed, and Russia will most likely fail this time around as well, since Russia is up against a power beyond their reach. This power controlls the global finance, the science and technology that drives the modern economy, the global media and a military power that no one can match.

Russia has three options:

1. Surrender to the West.

2. Unite with China and risk an economic meltdown if China failes to reform it economy from an export orientated economy, towards its own domestic market and transform China to an economic engine built on dynamic modern science and technology before the TPP and TTIP agreements are in place, which will raise a wall of protectionism against Chinese exports.

3. Create a self sustained economy and isolate it self.

by: Peter
August 09, 2015 17:44
Excellent discussion!

by: Jack Kastel
August 09, 2015 22:15
The dream of every neocon in D.C. Eh Brian?

Didn't you guys learn your lesson the hard way in 1999-2000?

by: Bob
August 10, 2015 05:56
The idea of Russia coming apart is wishful thinking. Ukraine looks more the role to further fragment.

Meantime, some others like South Ossetia and Pridnestrovie show a willingness to reunify with Russia. Who in the right mind would want to link with Kiev regime controlled Ukraine?
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by: Brian Whitmore from: Prague
August 10, 2015 10:20
You know what I love? When a lot of Kremlin trolls flock to my comments section. Yeah, I'm looking at you "Bob" & "Jack Kastel." I love the fact that you are all so transparently ridiculous. It makes me smile. It makes me laugh. It brightens up my day. I love your tired predictable cliches. I love it when you toss around terms, like "neocon," that you clearly don't understand. And I love that each and every one of your comments costs somebody in Moscow money. So keep it up! Meet your quotas here all the time! I love you guys!

by: George from: Belarus
August 10, 2015 09:47
Thanks for the advice re my question about the Renaissance. But, who is Bob (see his comments above) and what is his slant?
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by: Brian Whitmore from: Prague
August 10, 2015 11:24
"Bob" isn't really Bob. He's either a troll or a useful idiot. Not sure which. But you can ignore him in either case (or ridicule him, if you like)

by: George from: Belarus
August 10, 2015 10:00
Bob mentions the slant of RFERL. Yes, the slant is in favour of democracy, as it must be for all real journalists. Without democracy there is not real journalism, only propaganda. RFERL is imperfect in pursuing democracy, of course, but at least we know what the slant is and at least RFERL believes in something. So what is Russia's slant? What does Russia believe in? Communism? No longer. God? Not really. What?
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by: Andrew from: Brisbane
August 10, 2015 19:16
Neo-fascism wrapped up in Philistinism is getting pretty close to the right answer.

by: OntheBalcony from: Ukraine
August 11, 2015 02:33
Goble is so spot-on that it sent chills up my spine. Like Scholars analysts and skilled commentators Gobel is mindful of his professional reputation and therefore conservative and reluctant to commit to predictions. My intuition is that the hesitancy Gobel showed at points were self-imposed restraints on the expression of his very strong belief that the Emperor is very close to being exposed and deposed with devastating consequences for the entire Russian Federation. All that is needed in Moscow is a child's voice to cry our what is becoming increasingly obvious, "Look! The Emperor has no clothing." Of course.... I could be wrong.... it's an intuition from reading things between the lines of Russian public discourse that may not actually be there. And perhaps I am similarly only imagining that Gobel is reading it too. In any case, Great discussion.

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