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Podcast: The Putin Illusion

Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks during a press conference at the end of the G20 summit  in Los Cabos, Mexico, on June 19.
Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks during a press conference at the end of the G20 summit in Los Cabos, Mexico, on June 19.
For more than a decade, he's been dominating the airwaves. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said this. President Vladimir Putin did that. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin criticized this. President Vladimir Putin signed that.
 
And for months now, we've been hearing his name chanted derisively on the streets of Moscow and other cities: "Putin must go!" "Russia without Putin!" "Putin is a thief!"
 
From his splashy debut on the scene more than 12 years ago, when he famously vowed to rub out the Chechen rebels in the outhouse, Putin has been the alpha male at the epicenter of Russian politics. So it's not surprising that as opposition to the current regime spreads, the focus has largely been on Putin personally. His leaving the scene is seen as a necessary precondition for any change.
 
But how central is Putin really? And how centralized and vertically integrated is the Russian political system? Is Putin's departure necessary for change? Or can Russia change with him?
 
On this week's edition of "The Power Vertical Podcast," I discuss the nature of the Russian regime -- and Putin's role in it -- with my regular co-host, Kirill Kobrin, managing editor of RFE/RL's Russian Service.
 
Also on the podcast, Kirill and I talk about media reports that socialite-turned-activist Ksenia Sobchak may be facing an investigation into her taxes and what that might mean.

Listen to or download the podcast below, or subscribe to The Power Vertical Podcast on iTunes.

Enjoy...

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by: Andres from: Madrid
June 23, 2012 11:28
Dear Brian,
why don't you have transcripts of the podcasts?
the multimedia does not always run well and sometimes I personally feel like scanning through the text for useful insights.
Best,

Andres

by: Mamuka
June 23, 2012 20:55
Kirill made an interesting comment about Putin being dependent on "pop culture." He did not follow up on this except later in the podcast when he said that Putin can lose his "high-brow" support but when he loses his "low-brow" support it will be a problem-- his Walter Cronkeit moment.

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
June 24, 2012 02:56
Can any one of Putin's subordinates take the initiative and to eliminate or to imprison opponents of Putin?
And then in the gym or sauna to say:"Volodya.. I'm sorry, but I took responsibility and told to kill the rotten bastard who is against you "
Is it possible or not?
I think that it is impossible..
Putin has always said, "Let's work as a team".
Therefore, we can say that certain decisions taken collectively.
And then we can say that not only Putin can be initiated certain ideas, but other people...but it is obvious that the last word for him...he may reject the idea, and can support it..

Putin's defenders deny that Putin has made ​​some decisions, because it is too small for him and he has no time for miscellaneous trifles..
but in fact the whole issue and that people outside of Russia can not understand what exactly Putin decides on various small cases it is Russian mentality and the specificity of the Russian President..
Putin's opponents insist that the power must be controlled and stupid ideas of the president might be blocked and become the subject of public discussion, before making a decision.
And it's not in Russia .. here only one person decides to-whom executе, whom show mercy..
So it's all true, "Putin killed him, Putin put him in prison, Putin bought a corrupt scumbags,Putin poisoned him, Putin to bomb..

So, when you Mr.Whitmore meet Mr. Putin, you can shamelessly say:"Volodya, why did you kill him?... he was a good man."

by: Eugenio from: Vienna
June 24, 2012 08:41
Congratulations to the team of RFE/RL: this latest "interesting negative" piece of writing on Putin has provoked an increadibly high level of public interest - the whole 3 (!!!) persons found it necessary to comment on the article (well, ok, Vakhtang seems to have come back from his vacation on the Black See and obvioulsy could not miss a chance to say something negative about Putin as usual :-)).
Just compare this number to, for example, the number of those who commented on the article on downing of the Turkish jet in Syria - just to get a comparative perspective on what is "interesting" and what is not :-).
In Response

by: Vakhtang from: Moscow
June 24, 2012 12:32
I'll tell you Eugenio.
I left there a comment but it was banned by the moderator..
Nothing criminal was there, only that:
Turkish plane was shot down by russian missile(s) and that missile(s) were sent by russian instructors that serve air defense systems in Syria..
I do not want to argue for what it did... and for whom-))))...or is it "good" or "bad"..but only Erdogan is not Merkel and the turks openly accused russians that they shot down their plane..and all this is fraught with serious consequences...however, those who gave the order may have the goal to create such effects??
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by: Eugenio from: Vienna
June 24, 2012 19:04
Hey, Vakhtang, I can very easily imagine that the RFE/RL blocked your comment: if you knew how many of mine they have blocked over the last year :-).
As far as the Turkish airplane is concerned, you are saying that "all this is fraught with serious consequences". Very frankly, Vakhtang, I am not so sure. See, it's been almost 3 days already and there has not been any kind of serious reaction on the part of anyone in the NATO. Even Erdogan and Gül were REALLY restrained in their comments. So, I can easily imagine that they wil just try to pretend like nothing happened: the guys are just in such a desperate situation militarily, politically (Egypt is only the latest of the hot spots that they have no idea how to deal with) and economically that it's hard to imagine that they would go for a confrontation with Russia, China and Iran right now.

by: American Troll
June 24, 2012 09:45
"he famously vowed to rub out the Chechen rebels in the outhouse"

Careful, Vova. You'll go blind doing that.

by: Ray F. from: Lawrence, KS
June 24, 2012 16:31
I suppose it goes back to one’s idea of history and the role that the leader plays. Tolstoy believed that Napoleon merely rode the crest of a wave that had been building for ages, while other historians posit that the great leader does in fact shape the course of history. The illusion of leadership is likely based on some mixture of these and 10,000 other variables that historians try to sort out.

This dilemma regarding the role of the leader and society is not unique to Russia. One could easily write of the ‘Obama illusion,’ the Merkel illusion,’ the Sarkozy illusion,’ etc… over the past decade. Obama, like Putin and these other leaders, inherited a mess, and it’s naïve to believe that any leader alone could bring their country into the promised land.

From a Russian perspective, I believe that Putin has done a great job. Yes, I’m aware that he has limited some freedoms, but he has provided the necessary stability for the country to regain its balance and some belief in the future. Like Obama’s, his ideology might be based on illusions, but it’s a ‘change’ that the people can believe in (or at least could for awhile).

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