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Kyiv Ditches Separatist-Linked Ribbon As WWII Symbol

A woman waves orange ribbons of St. George, a symbol widely associated with pro-Russia protests, in front of the occupied town-administration building in the eastern Ukrainian town of Kostyantynivka late last month.
A woman waves orange ribbons of St. George, a symbol widely associated with pro-Russia protests, in front of the occupied town-administration building in the eastern Ukrainian town of Kostyantynivka late last month.
The St. George Ribbon, traditionally worn to mark victory against Nazi Germany in World War II, will be conspicuously absent from Ukraine's May 9 ceremonies this year -- at least in the country's west.
 
The ribbon has come to symbolize separatist sentiment in eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russia militants have seized government buildings in a dozen towns.
 
Instead, many Ukrainians will be donning poppies resembling those worn in Britain and other Western countries to commemorate soldiers who have died in wars.
 
A stylized poppy created by Kharkiv designer Serhiy Mishakin has been adopted as an official emblem for May 9.
 
 

The initiative was launched by the Ukrainian Institute for National Memory, established in 2006 by then-President Viktor Yushchenko to shed light on little-known episodes of Ukrainian history and to combat what it says are Soviet-era misrepresentations.
 
The institute's director, Volodymyr Vyatrovich, said the poppy was a fitting symbol since Ukrainian folk songs mention "poppies blooming where Cossack blood had been spilt."
 
Some, however, may see the red-and-black poppy as an unfortunate choice, since the same colors are used by Right Sector ultranationalists – a group accused by Moscow of being neo-Nazis.

-- Claire Bigg
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by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
May 06, 2014 17:00
1.
The ribbon as a symbol of Russian Empire's navy was
associated with Russian explorations and victories in the
Sea, not by Peter, nephew of Georgian King, the only real victory Russia had, but at later times, becoming a pinnacle of Russian patriotic propaganda, specially before Russian Revolution.
It was picked-up by revolutionaries and Bolsheviks, as symbol of renewed Russian expansion.
During WW2 Crimea and Black Sea navy of USSR used it as
patriotic propaganda for youngsters, but immediately attached to it an odor of Russian Imperial domination, quite unpleasant for a non-Russian.
Now, conquering Ukrainian land for Russian Nazi expansion
and using this symbol, Russia totally discredited any positive sent in such ribbon, if was any, turning it into expansionistic arrogance.
It is necessary not to use it, if the enemy that invaded your land using it
Forgive, St. George, it isn't your fault.

2.
On another hand, one must be careful with any symbol.
New temporary government pushing for European
Symbol.
NOMINALY THEY STAND FOR UNITED FREE UKRAINE.
1940-1945 was a sad times for all Ukraine and Europe,
however, most of Ukraine contributed to victory in 1945.
Is somebody limiting national interests of Ukraine
by few hundreds veterans of Bandera, manipulated by
few of them, broken by Russian Occupiers after WW2,
working for Russian propaganda and claiming
representation for all Ukraine?
Is it why they meeting with Lavrov in Vienna?
Is it why France and Germany wouldn't participate in such summit?
Is it why KGB and Helena were so close since 1950-th,
bringing movies "Vienna Bale on Ice" and "Sounds of Music", forging for Shwarzenegger movie about "Russian cop hero and bad Georgian deserter and his son bandit" and plotted
restoration of Russian and Austrian colonial empires?
How much could it cost to the World?
Dividing Balkans and Ukraine between Russia and Austria?
Dividing Eastern Europe between Russia and Germany?
Let than British gentlemen pick parts of old British Empire?
LET FREE UNITED UKRAINE TALK WITH THEIR FRIENDS
ON WESTERN BORDER, HUNGARIANS, ROMANIANS, CHECKS, SLOVAKS, POLS - WHY MOSCOW AND VIENNA?

3.
Small ribbon might not mean much, but it makes me think,
how deep the little spiders of evil Russian Empire are hidden and how many of them are there...
FREE, UNITED, INDEPENDENT, PROSPEROUS UKRAINE
IS KEY TO PEACE IN EUROPE, NOT VIENA - MOSKOW IMNPERIAL AFFINITY.
In Response

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
May 08, 2014 03:38
SOME DONETSK RIBBONS MEANING:
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Russia count on the same imperial racist expansion.
1992-93 scenario in Abkhasia and 2008 scenario in South Ossetia modified for Ukraine and even much more arrorant.
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"Activists" from the East saying that they are 1.5 Billion Arabs
in 1.5 Billion Moslem World.
In reality it is only Arabian subcontinent.
The rest have minority of Arabized (in language) and even less
descent of raped during Arab conquests.
(It is why "Arab Spring" try cleanse Syria and already loosing in Egypt.)
"Activist" say the same is Ukraine.
Most of Ukrainians can speak Russian (Like invaded by Arabs or Arabized.), thus they can be counted as Russian-speaking, thus they are Russians, thus Ukraine can be cleansed from "minority" of west-Ukrainian "nobodies".
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IN REALITY MAGORITY IN UKRAINE ARE UKRAINIANS THAT DURING RUSSIAN EMPIRE AND USSR WERE FORCED USE RUSSIAN.
IN REALITY THE REST OF RUSSIAN SPEAKING (ARABIZED) ARE UKRAINIANS, NON-RUSSIANS AND MIXED MARRIAGES INTIMIDATED IN PLACES LIKE DONETSK (NA KOLENI HOHOL!).
IN REALITY THE ONLY RUSSIANS ARE EVEN SMALLER MINIORITY (TRUE ARABS), RUSSIAN INFLUX OF OCCUPIERS WITH MASTER'S "RIGHTS" TO ENSLAVE AND KNIFE UKRAINIANS, REINFORCED BY KGB, GRU, SPETCNAZ AND MOBILE POGROMERS FROM
ALL FORMER USSR.
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"Activist" say he fought as sniper in Afghanistan (genocide master), that his father was a WW2 hero and as Russian he would never agree talk Ukrainian (as conquering Arab), being Great Russian.
He say he cannot allow Maidan liberated Ukrainians be called
heroes, they are "nobodies".
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HERE YOU GET IT!
UKRAINIANS CANNOT BE EQUAL IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!
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IT IS WHY RUSSIANS WOULD LIKE MOVE IN EVEN CHECHEN AND OTHER CHILDREN OF WW2 WAR CRIMINALS, SLAVES OF RUSSIAN GRU-SPETCNAZ TO CUT-OFF UKRAINIAN HEADS, WILE CALLING UKRAINIANS FASHISTS, BECAUSE FEW OF THEM ALSO HAD FATHERS FIGHTING FOR GERMANS, ONLY UNLIKE CHECHENS
THEIR FATHERS WW2 CRIMINALS WERE KILLED IN COMBAT, THEY DIDN'T HIGHT IN CENTRAL ASIA.
EVEN SO, THEY USED AS “JUPEL” TO CLEANSE UKRAINE FROM UKRAINIANS.
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IT IS WHY RUSSIAN INVADERS AND RUSSIAN EXPANDING EMPIRE DON'T WANT WAIT FOR ELECTION, WHEN PROTECTED FROM THEM MAJORITY IN THE EAST WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR FREE WILL.
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ON ANOTHER HAND, EASTERN POPULATION AT LARGE HAVE ECONOMIC PROBLEM, AS ALL UKRAINE, NEW ELECTED GOVERNMENT MUST HELP, THOUGHT IT IS RUSSIA CREATED THE PROBLEMS WITH HELP OF LOCAL SABOTEURS TRYING INDEBT ROBBED BY TRILLIONS
BY RUSSIA UKRAINE AND CLEANSE IT FROM UKRAINIANS FOR RUSSIA.
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EAST UKRAINE, EVEN RUSSIAN CITIZENS, WULD BE
BETTER OFF AFTER ELECTIONS, IF THE A FOR REAL.
FOR THE TIME BEING INTERIM GOVERNMENT SHOULD
NOT MAKE REFORM THAT MIGHT HARDEN LIFE OF THE
CITIZENS, INCLUDING EAST, IF EAST WOULDN'T SABOTAGE UKRAINIAN ECONOMY AS BEFORE TO INDEBT UKRAINE AND STEAL FOR RUSSIA.
In Response

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
May 09, 2014 07:55
Election 25, Yatcenuk must have open mind till new
government elected, you are lying Kozyreva!
lying Russia IN DEBT TO Ukraine trillions!
UKRAINE HAS BE FREE!
PUSHING UKRAINE BE REPOPULATED BY
RUSSIA, Mrs. Kozyreva?
______________________________________________
German pseudo-labor rather get part of loot of Wolf-Hitler-Putin, annexing-enslaving Ukraine, that West relative democracy save Ukraine from Russia.
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Yatcenuk open-minded - election 25-th!
Blackmailing, lying Russian Kozyreva?
Budapest agreement meant non-allied strategically.
______________________________________________
May 25 would be majority government! Russia poke at few
Lviv KGB-pseudo-fashists to deny all Ukraine life,
breed instead Russians!
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Russia stole trillions from Ukraine!
Russia tried enslave for debt Ukraine!
Maidan – Ukraine's anger met by Russian bullets!
Few Carpathians were there too - they are too Citizens of
Ukraine!
________________________________________________
East Ukraine minority Nazi-Rus' (like Adyga in Abkhazia) and
Russian "3-d Force" locked-intimidate majority from 25 election!
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Kozyrev lies!
Budapest agreed Ukraine non-nuclear and non-allied - that mean free trade of Ukraine-World-CIS-EU.
Russia betray it, to make Ukraine slave of Russia.
Maidan was protest, Nazi Russia!
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Putin uses official face of 2-faced Sterviatnik deny insurge,
but Russia use "3-d Force" face of Sterviatnik invade Ukraine!
Smart Putin, or maybe Putin, as Eltcin, do not realize it?
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Budapest - Ukraine-EU-CIS free trade.
Russia debt to Ukraine trillions - but it steal more and invades!
25 - UKRAINE TO ELECTION!
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25 - ALL UKRAINE TO ELECTIONS!
LET EAST, INVADED BY NAZI RUSSIA, VOTE TOO!
UNITED NATIONS - SAVE VOTERS IN THE EAST!
RUSSIAN 3-D FORCE OUT!

by: dlbrown from: minnesota
May 06, 2014 17:42
another old soviet welfare hag. turned in family for promotions in the party and now does not like the idea of a free election, no bought like all the others.

by: Jack from: US
May 07, 2014 00:40
there is no surprise Kiev "government" is banning St.George ribbon. After all the Kiev "government" represents those who were allied with Nazi Germany during WWII. There is also no doubt they will end up like their predecessors did

by: John Newcomb from: Canada
May 07, 2014 04:28
Not only is Ukraine ceasing to use the "koloradi" ribbon but there are Ukraine news reports that Belarus and Kazakhstan are no longer using it, substituting instead other traditional colours.

Reference:
http://glavcom.ua/news/203926.html
http://nedelya-ua.com/news/kazahstan-zapretil-nosit-georgievskie-lenty-na-den-pobedy
In Response

by: Anton from: Russia
May 07, 2014 12:57
Yeah, right, oh, wait - no, Kazakhs say they have no idea what those Ukrainian media is talking about.

http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/posolstvu-rossii-v-kazahstane-ne-zapreschali-razdavat-georgievskie-lentyi-254900/

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
May 07, 2014 11:01
ABOUT FAITH AND ABOUT SYMBOLS OF FAITH
It was a rainy day in Moscow before the Victory day.
It was a song of Zaza on words of an Ukrainian girl.
Just remember your Faith and it become all clear:
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First Law of God - don't plagiarize best inspirations, Russians,
Inspiration in millions lights of souls, not in your sniping bullets.
Second Law of God - don't usurp powers, Moscow's Prussians,
Ukraine motors, Asia cotton, Kartveli plane, Nizharadze rocket.

North and East Pillars of Sword and Cross of the World is ours,
You betraying and usurping, for "country of slaves and beasts".
Third Law of God - He gave nations Lands, Nature, all powers,
Thy can't take it away with secret spies armies, or forging debt.

After Christmas of 1941 WW2 was lost and no arms for fighting.
Stalin asked all nations, religions of North and East pillars pray.
They prayed. Answer - Nazi arms frozen, armies thrown away.
This time God din't let Moscow grab sword stolen of All Mighty.



Konstantin Benidze
(Joseph Beridze-Crossbearershvili)

by: Eugenio from: Vienna
May 09, 2014 20:42
Guys, I wanted to share with you the VIDEO of the Syrian Arab Army returning today - Friday - to the city of HOMS that had been taken over by the US-bakced terrorists two years ago. For these two years all those US officials have been promising an imminent demise of Baschar and his govt. And instead, all of their terrorist friends have been exterminated and the Syrian govt has retaken control of the city. From now on, people in this part of Syria will return to normal life and will hate the US even more than they did before.
And the same thing will happen in Ukraine: all the US-loser (such as Yats, Turch, Tim and Por) will be kicked out of the country, the US-sponsored terrorists will be defeated and people will return to their normal lives, some of them will depart from Ukraine with their respective regions and will join Russia. Remember this day and the city of Homs - justice will prevail and the US will be defeated, the same way it was defeated in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Irak, Syria or Venezuela.
VIDEO: The Syrian Arab Army comes back to the historic city center of Homs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugdjh00wGdk

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