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Tunisia's Popular Uprising Sends Ripples Across Eurasia

A demonstrator holds a sign reading "Game Over" during a rally in front of the Interior Ministry in Tunis on January 14.
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By Farangis Najibullah
The popular uprising that swept Tunisia's longtime leader from power last week is sending ripples across other regions known for their autocratic rulers.

Following President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali's ouster amid street protests, people in Central Asia, Azerbaijan, and Iran, have started to draw parallels between the situation in Tunisia and in their own countries.

To be sure, popular reaction is nowhere near the scale of that in places closer to Tunisia, like Egypt, where activists have been using social media to urge copycat protests.

But with most Central Asian presidents of a similar vintage to Ben Ali -- who had ruled Tunisia since 1987 -- people writing to RFE/RL's language services are pointing out some similarities, and voicing hope their rulers will go the same way.

"Just like us! Those in Tunisia are in the same situation like us, Azerbaijanis," writes Baku resident Natiq Cavadli in a comment on RFE/RL's Azeri-language website, azadliq.org.

"The Tunisian scenario could be repeated in Turkmenistan, too," a reader called "Makhmal" writes to azathabar.com, RFE/RL's Turkmen-language website. "If Turkmen leaders don't want the repetition of the Tunisian events in our country, they should take measures to improve the situation here."

Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan -- along with Ashgabat's neighbors in Central Asia -- are notorious for their autocratic, long-ruling presidents, who run their countries with an iron fist while their family members frequently have control over their country's wealth.

Wake-Up Call

"Jomi" from Dushanbe hopes the overthrow of Ben Ali by popular uprising sends a message to people throughout Asia and Africa that "no one can stay in power indefinitely."

Kazakhstan's Nursultan Nazarbaev -- irreplaceable leader of the nation?
"First it was Kyrgyzstan, now Tunisia became the second and time will show who is going to be the third," writes "Jomi" to RFE/RL's Tajik-language website, ozodi.org. "Unfortunately, most leaders in Asia and Africa have opted for unjust ruling.... [Tunisia] should teach them a lesson."

"Wake up Central Asia!" writes "Kanatbek" from Bishkek on RFE/RL's Kyrgyz-language website, azzattyk.kg.

"Abdulloh" who introduces himself as an Uzbek living in Russia, writes on RFE/RL's ozodlik.org website that Uzbek President Islam Karimov -- who's been in power since 1989 -- could meet a similar fate to Ben Ali.

"God willing, dictator Karimov who is ruling Uzbekistan illegally and despotically will end up like this. The day will come when he will pay for all the injustices he subjected his people to."

Ominous Sign?

Ben Ali's ouster coincided with the Kazakh parliament approving amendments to the country's constitution that will pave the way for President Nursultan Nazarbaev's term in office to be extended until 2020.

Like his Tunisian counterpart, Nazarbaev -- dubbed by his supporters the irreplaceable leader of the nation -- has been in power since the late 1980s. And like Ben Ali, Nazarbaev's family members and relatives are known for their lavish lifestyle and for exploiting their influence to accumulate enormous wealth.

Many readers of RFE/RL's Kazakh-language website, azattyk.org, warn that the Tunisian events should serve as a wake-up call or even be taken "as an omen for Nazarbaev to put things right before they begin to turn wrong."

An azattyk.org reader who gives no name writes: "The president of Tunisia pathetically fled his country after ruling it for 23 years -- like Nazarbaev, without giving a chance to others. It happened during people's protests against corruption by the regime. Do you see similarities here?

"And there is another similarity in the length of their term in office. Tunisia was hailed as the most advanced country in Africa and its president as an irreplaceable leader."

We've Been There

Kyrgyzstan saw its autocratic President Kurmanbek Bakiev -- criticized for corruption and nepotism -- deposed by street protests last April. "Kyrgyz," a reader of RFE/RL's azattyk.org from Bishkek, writes proudly: "Our revolution is spreading to the rest of the world. Justice will prevail. Down with corruption. We have to continue our path until the end!"

But "Mekentash" from Bishkek sounds a note of caution and offers a word of advice to Tunisians:

"Overthrowing a regime is only the beginning. The most important thing is to build a stable and prosperous nation. If you are not careful, you'll fail in the very first elections. You will see the ousted president's close people come back to power. Look at our experience in 2010 and learn a lesson."

Events in Tunisia have also been closely watched in Iran, which saw its own mass street protests following the disputed presidential election in June 2009.

Despite nationwide demonstrations against alleged electoral fraud, President Mahmud Ahmadinejad has remained in office. An Iranian commenter who gives his name as "zid-e Islam" writes to RFE/RL's radiofarda.com that he hopes Tunisians will have a better outcome.

"I congratulate the Tunisian nation from the bottom of my heart," the writer says. "I hope democracy will win in this Arab country, so we could see a first example of true democracy in the Arab world."
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by: Libertarian from: Civilzation
January 17, 2011 17:45
There is not written formula for revolutions to take place. There were two peaceful government changes taken place in Ukraine ,Georgia and Kyrgyzstan (twice). Those changes did not have continuance in Azerbaijan or other Central Asian Republics. If people in other countries wait for some magic to happen and prepare some slogans and logos for their "upcoming" revolution without having real unity and tactical preparations, these countries' people will have their dreams unrealized. People have to stand-up for their rights and fight for their self-government.
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by: jaygarthjr from: Texas US
January 19, 2011 15:21
Try reread Declaration of Independence

by: Zoltan from: Hungary
January 17, 2011 21:19
People need courage to overthrow their authoritarian government as nobody should forget that at least 30-50 people have been died until victory.

In Belarus for example despite nobody died nobody take to the streets after the crackdown of 19. December...

Without personal courage freedom can not be achieved!

by: Zoltan from: Hungary
January 17, 2011 21:21
However there are true democracies in the Arab world:
- Lebanon
-Iraq

So Tunisia will not be the first.
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by: Anonymous
January 20, 2011 15:32
There is no government in either Iraq or Lebanon that can defend the countries or the rights of those living within them. Both governments are just shadow governments.

by: Sergey from: Suburban Chicago, IL, USA
January 17, 2011 22:28
Farangis Najibullah is surely enthusiasts of revolutions, but I am not going to join in the party. First of all, as an American citizen, I want to be sure that those forces that replace overthrown ones will not be ISLAMIST THUGS.

BTW, remember Islamic revolution of 1979 ? Shah of Iran surely was an authocrat, but who replaced him ? I don't want in place of authocrats mad Mullahs or the likes of Ahmadinejad. So I am not going to cheer authomatically when some Muslim ruler falls because I want to see first who is going to replace him.
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by: Turgai
January 19, 2011 08:24
Obviously, since you are safe and dry in suburan Chicago you have no clue of what it is to live under Ben Ali or Karimov. So what the heck are you talking about?

by: Sergey from: Chicago, USA
January 17, 2011 22:32
Look at this article, scroll down and notice the guys with machetes and long knives checking the cars. So before posting cheerful article on the unrest in Tunisia, check who is actually unresting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1347889/Tunisia-riots-Latest-travel-news-BA-criticised-flying-Britons-war-zone.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

by: Sergey from: Chicago, USA
January 17, 2011 22:34
Now here is the headlines from Reuters: Death toll in Tunisia unrest at 78-interior minister

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE70G27R20110117

by: Sergey from: Chicago, USA
January 17, 2011 22:39
Now here is from BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/9363808.stm

Read the fragments before cheering, Farangis and RFE/RL. We MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ISLAMIC REVOLUTION SIMILAR TO 1979 IN IRAN

17:41 "The Swedish tourists who were attacked in Tunis on Sunday have been showing video footage of their ordeal to the media. "

13:42 UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has called for the rule of law to be restored in Tunisia, saying he is concerned about the loss of life, Reuters reports.

13:38 A leading Eygptian pop star, Tamer Hosny, has released a song on his website in support of the Tunisian demonstrations: "Your martyrs green Tunisia, not one of them has died. He who dies for his dignity, his honour, for him this is a birthday."

13:34 The British Foreign Office is advising all Britons who do not have a "pressing need" to stay in Tunisia to leave as soon as possible. It says people should remain indoors, stay away from demonstrations, exercise caution, and observe instructions given by local security authorities and tour operators.



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by: Turgai
January 19, 2011 08:22
OK Seryoga, now what do you want to prove or say?

by: Gharapaghtsi Hrair from: Nagorno Karabakh, Armenia
January 17, 2011 22:58
Former leaders of Azerbaijan, such as Bakirov, Ayaz Mutalibov and Abulfaz Eljibei were ousted after losing wars against Nagorno Karabakh Armenians. Aliyev the elder died of old age and in control of the country because he was wise enough not to try anything funny. If Aliyev the younger, his spoiled child, keeps threatening Armenia, the Armenians will give him the spanking he deserves.
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by: Ziyad from: New Yotk
January 18, 2011 08:42
1) Even the child knows that we lost to Russia not the "hero" Armenian dashnaqs.
If you dont read at least look to some youtube videos why Azeri OMONs left Khankendi without any clashes.
2) I dont hate Armenians. I wonna live with all Karabakh Armenians.
But firstly you ve to learn to respect to territorial integrity of your neighbors.
I will not be suprised if Armenians in California will start a revolution to be free in US.
Pls be careful from Armenians they are not Chinese or African. One day will come they will claim that America is an ancient Hayastan :)
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by: Gharapaghtsi Hrair from: Nagorno Karabakh, Armenia
January 18, 2011 13:15
I was born in Stepanakert. I was there when Turks and Azeris destroyed my house, killed my family and my neighbors. I saw how Azeri airplanes bombed Stepanakert. I'm very proud of the Nagorno Karabakh Armenian Self Defense Army, which expelled the Azerbaijani occupiers. I saw the liberation of Shushi and the rest of Nagorno Karabakh. And very soon I'll see the liberation of Nakhichevan. Turks and Azeris are not welcome in Nagorno Karabakh.
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by: Artsakhtsi from: Artsakh
January 18, 2011 14:39
Dear Ziyad, I too want to live with my Azeri neighbours. "neighbours' is the key word. I agree with you, a lot of Azeris were let to leave Artsakh without being harmed. If thee were no clashes that is because Armenians did not want to fight innocent people. If you want to live with us then you should learn not to claim other people's historic ancestral lands and be content with what you already have.

And most of all, Azeris should learn to stop all lies, such as the so-called Khojali incident where innocent people who were let to leave the territory by Armenians, were killed in Azeri OMON controlled territory by Azeris thugs. You have to start respecting Armenians, your neighbours you want to live besides.
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by: Ziyad from: New York
January 18, 2011 17:47
Only Armenians wants to return their period of Renaissance.
Yes u re right Armenians lived in todays Turkey (Anatolia) before than Turks. But Armenians (II Tigran) invaded whole todays Armenia & Karabakh. Yes Turks came to Caucasia and Anatolia after 10th century.
I hope u remember the territory Ottoman Empire for 800 years from Spain to Israel, from Austria to Algeria. Why we dont claim that territories? Why we do not start rebellions? There are millions of turks in Iraq, Ukraine, Iran, Syria, Algeria, Bulgaria and etc. Why they do not fight for freedom. Bec, We have always respected all the peoples' countries and their territorial integrity. There are 32 mln Azeris in Iran.Why they do not fight for freedom and kill Iranians?
There were less than 300.000 Armenians in Karabakh during 1989-90.
And there were 1.200.000 AZeris who were expelled from Karabakh and seven other regions.
Please Understand that it is the Russian Policy to make us fight each other. They know that if we dont fight we will be strong together.
What did u get by invading Karabakh ( with the Russian help)?
Nothing! Only embargos..
Today Azeri Army budget is more than whole Armenian and Karabakh budget.
This is the real condition...!
Please think and do not be a Russian slave country...
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by: Taxpayer from: USA
January 19, 2011 05:52
Ziyad exhibits a typical way of thinking common among representatives of nomadic civilizations. No matter how many centuries they live on other people's lands killing and exploiting the native populations these lands don't become their Motherland.

It's just a fact, nothing wrong or right about it. This is how our civilizations differ.

Ziyad thinks that other people are just like him because for him this nomadic way of thinking is the only way. That's why he is surprised why Armenians don't establish Armenian states everywhere they could. It's impossible to explain to people like him that Armenians only want the lands that belong to them, not a square millimeter more. Unlike them, nomadic people will take anything they can. The reason modern Turks don't claim territories of Iraq, Ukraine, Syria, Algeria, etc. is because they CAN'T. They are too weak. But peoples who had the misfortune to know these nomads understand very well that at the first opportunity Turks would occupy and kill them again.

The numbers Ziyad uses are typical Sultan Aliyev's propaganda statistics. There are no 32 mln Azeris in Iran! There are many millions Iranians who were forced to switch to Turkish language when Northern Iran was under Turkic yoke. This didn't make them Turks and they are very different from nomadic Turks to the North that only recently started to be referred as "Azeris" after stealing this name from the neighboring Iranian province. This was Stalin's decision as he thought to expand communism to Iran and take that province.

The number of 1.2 mln "Azeri refugees" is a total lie. Even after all manipulations such as bringing Meskhetian Turks from Central Asia to live in Karabakh and forced re-locations there were simply no 1.2 mln people there to expel. However, this number works well when Azeri officials collect funds for "poor refugees" from the UN to support their ever growing appetites.

And one last thing - the budget of Azeri Army - LOL! It doesn't matter at all - Azeri Defense Minister (whose scandal with secret accounts in Hungary was well publicized) and his little helpers can steal more then Sultan Aliyev is willing to appropriate. It is people who will have to fight and not budgets. As all wars with nomadic Turks show they are not willing to fight. They prefer to send other peoples (Talysh, Lezgi, Taliban (yes, thousands of Afghan Talibs were hired by the previous Sultan Heydar Aliyev to fight in Karabakh) and kill Armenian civilians like it happened in Sumgait, Baku, Maraga and all over Artsakh. The situation now is very different - there are no more Armenian civilians left to slaughter in Azerbaijan and any attempt to attack Artsakh will mean the end of the Azeri-Turk Sultanate. Ilham Aliyev, the current Sultan and the son of the immediate past Sultan, is well aware of this and would never agree to trade his comfortable life as a dictator for a cell in the Hague. The war hysteria is needed to explain to his starving population why only a few thousand of Azeri elite owns all the oil revenues of this country.

As Turkish Sultan Abdul Hamid once said - "Motherland is a place where you set your foot. I don't understand how anybody would want to die for it." That's why Azeri's vote with their feet to flee to Russia from the oppressive dictatorship of Sultan Ilham Heydar-ugly Aliev.
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by: Alex from: Seattle
January 19, 2011 08:38
The fact that you use fairly bad logic in your first point makes your comment null. You believe that there are 32 million Azerbaijanis in Iran when there are, at best, around 15 million. You also believe that a greater military budget gives you immediate superiority over Armenia. I see. Tell me - what type of government exists in Vietnam? What is the name of the ruling party of that country?

We never got "Russian help", don't flatter yourself. Also, I'd like to point out that the Turks never made it to Spain - that's the Arabs you're thinking of. Also, Armenians are and were an ethnic majority in Nagorno-Karabakh. 1,200,000 is an inflated number, since between Armenia and Azerbaijan, there was a total of approximately 1 millions refugees.

You never express whether or not you dislike Aliyev, your arrogant, despotic, dynastic, nepotistic, petroleum-fueled dictator, but it's obvious you've fallen victim to the propagandistic garbage his government spews on a regular basis.

by: Sergey from: Suburban Chicago, USA
January 19, 2011 11:40
Please read the following very thoughtful article by Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.org. His thoughts are precisely what I fear--that this revolution is not about liberty but about Islamic thugs toppling corrupt and inefficient regime and trying to establish an Islamist state, like Iran. Certainly, not a good scenario.

Jihad in Tunisia by Robert Spencer

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/spencer-a-jihad-in-tunisia.html

by: Richy from: Earth
January 19, 2011 12:16
It is too early to draw such conclusions. We have to see what happens next. It may bring unwanted consequences. As to Central Asia, where the situation is different from the situation in Tunisia, extremist voices are making themselves more heard among the people than democratic voices. Unfortunately, democracy has come to be seen as failure before it has reached them. Another hurried and wrong judgement of RFE/RL.
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