Saturday, August 27, 2016


Ukraine Unspun

How Russian State TV Linked Satanists To Ukraine's Leadership

According to a state-run Russian broadcaster, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk (right) and parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov are striving to erode the standing of the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine.
According to a state-run Russian broadcaster, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk (right) and parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov are striving to erode the standing of the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine.

What do Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov have in common with members of a satanic religious sect based in central Ukraine?

They are all part of a broad movement to destroy the Russian Orthodox Church, according to Russia's leading state-run broadcaster. 

The August 17 report on Rossia 24 begins with news that a devil-worshipping religious sect has received permission from local authorities to build a church, focusing on footage of a lamb that is apparently about to be slaughtered in a ritual sacrifice.

But to reporter Nikolai Sokolov, the wooly ruminant is only the furriest of the many potential victims of the new pro-European Ukraine, which, he says, "is now an ideal laboratory for [religious] sects." 

And the trouble, he says, starts at the top.

"Where Kyiv Rus was born the Russian Orthodox Church is losing numbers," he says, referring to the medieval Slavic state that laid the Orthodox foundations for modern-day Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine. "Many politicians are of different religions. Oleksandr Turchynov, for instance, combines his activities in the parliament with meetings of Baptists. To them he isn't just a parishioner, but a spiritual teacher."

There are an estimated 100 million Baptist community members worldwide, but they make up less than 1 percent of Ukraine's population. 

But Turchynov is not the only non-Orthodox believer in power, says Sokolov. 

Yatsenyuk is something that may be even worse: "a follower of Scientology," the controversial religious group that Russia has refused to recognize. 

Except he's not. Despite popular online rumors that he is either a Scientologist or Jewish, Yatsenyuk identifies himself as a Ukrainian Greek Catholic -- a church that makes up 14 percent of Ukraine's population. 

But perhaps for the purposes of the report it's a difference without a distinction. 

Russian officials and media figures opposed to the government in Kyiv have frequently padded their rhetoric with nationalistic calls to protect ethnic Russians and their Russian Orthodox beliefs, wherever threats may arise.

And some actions by pro-Russian separatists appear to be at least indirectly tied to these religious calls. 

In June, a group of local residents and armed Russian Cossacks in Crimea, which was annexed by Russia in March, ransacked a Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

And earlier this summer, four leaders of a Protestant church in Slovyansk -- then controlled by separatists -- were kidnapped from a service and killed some 16 hours later. 

-- Anna Shamanska with contributions from Glenn Kates

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by: Anonymous
August 19, 2014 17:26
problem is not if they are or they aren't satanists, Baptists or Scientologists

the real problem ..... tragedy ....is that they are two perfect idiots!
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by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
August 19, 2014 21:54
No, "Anonymous" party line of Russian "Stervyatnik",
which lie about other races, including honest Russians.
Idiots on your mouth, because resist be eaten "Kuryatnik",
Not perfect, but not cretin as your "Rus", Varags-Prussians.

Russian Church is not "Christian", it is "agitpunkt" from hell,
"Varagas" lost to "Greko-Makedonians", married their girl,
In "Visant", advised by prist-pedics robb well Ukrainians,
Expanding through Europe as "War of Salamandrians".

If both mentioned leaders use Baptists-Scientologists,
It was a "Party Line" since 1954-56 in occupied USSR
And East Europe, as expanding Varyag-Prussak beast
Befriend West by brainwashed, serfs of Russian "Czar".

It doesn't mean that they agree spying for "Stervyatnik",
That eating Ukraine, CIS and E. Europe like "Kuryatnik",
But if not, they used sometimes anywhere by hypnotists,
Eat a tie, instead of "NATO for Peace", say I'm NATOnik,
Called "Satanist", while 1954 pact divide for Russ-Germs.


by: American Tolerast
August 19, 2014 19:02
But what's puzzling you is the nature of Ukraine.
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by: Andy
August 19, 2014 19:38
That got a laugh out loud from me here in the newsroom.
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by: Richard Aelwyn from: United Kingdom
August 20, 2014 01:28
Gratuitous reference to a pretentious Rolling Stones track, I presume.

by: slava raczynska from: USA
August 19, 2014 19:21
Russia is behaving like a spoiled brat. It is impossible for them believe that Ukrainians do not need them and just want to do their own thing. Most Russians still follow the false history of Empress Catherine and have no clue that Kyiv Rus was never and will never be Rossyia. Russia will always be Muscovy born in the 12th century of Boyar criminals, Finns & mongol nomads while Ukraine is Scythia mixed with Europeans. All these problems started when "Muscovites" became "Russians" to steal Rus for their own history. They could have become greater than even the US had they not forced Russification on everyone else. Instead, they behave like ignorant pirates lying to their children who now believe in a glory that does not belong to them. If not for Ukraine's baptism, before Muscovy even existed, there would be no Russian Orthodox church. Its time for Ukraine to take back its history and return to the wisdom of our ancestors instead of behaving like the "Land Pirates" currently invading our ancestral homeland. We have thousands of years on our side, Muscovy has less than 800 years.
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by: Eugin from: Siberia
August 19, 2014 23:37
You need to study History, Slava! Riev Rus is beginning of Russian Imperia. Do not make a Myths!!!
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by: Liliann from: USA
August 21, 2014 02:36
we know our history very well. You were frozen too many years ago in Stalin's gulags.
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by: slava raczynska from: USA
August 27, 2014 03:23
Eugin, it was actually the Romanovs who created "Russia" (esp. Peter the Grt). Before then it was just Muscovy (since 12th century) which came from Moshol, a Finnish trading post before that. The city states like Novgorod and Suzdal had to fall into line just like the Italian city states after the renaissance. And lets not forget the Mongol invasion for how many centuries??? It was the Mongols who handed the Muscovites what was left of their empire when they retired.
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by: Jozef Javorka from: Slovakia
August 20, 2014 09:02
For Ukraine, its time to take back into christianity. This is only clear point in your (our) history. No mather if someone was criminal - when he accepted Christ, he is a new man. This is the way for all who dont understand Russians. God bless you, build a new Kyiv Rus+ Not something indifferent, even it has deep history. Every vision, strategy, idea is lost if not based in Christ.
Slava Isusu Christu!
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by: William Reston from: USA
August 20, 2014 14:25
A number of groups have claimed possible descent from the Scythians, including the Ossetians, Pashtuns (in particular, the Sakzai tribe) and the Parthians (whose homelands lay to the east of the Caspian Sea and who were thought to have come there from north of the Caspian). Some legends of the Poles,[67] the Picts, the Gaels, the Hungarians (in particular, the Jassics), the Serbs, Bosniaks and the Croats, among others, also include mention of Scythian origins. Some writers claim that Scythians figured in the formation of the empire of the Medes and likewise of Caucasian Albania.

The Scythians also feature in some national origin-legends of the Celts. In the second paragraph of the 1320 Declaration of Arbroath, the élite of Scotland claim Scythia as a former homeland of the Scots. According to the 11th-century Lebor Gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland), the 14th-century Auraicept na n-Éces and other Irish folklore, the Irish originated in Scythia and were descendants of Fénius Farsaid, a Scythian prince who created the Ogham alphabet and who was one of the principal architects of the Gaelic language.

The Carolingian kings of the Franks traced Merovingian ancestry to the Germanic tribe of the Sicambri. Gregory of Tours documents in his History of the Franks that when Clovis was baptised, he was referred to as a Sicamber with the words "Mitis depone colla, Sicamber, adora quod incendisti, incendi quod adorasti.". The Chronicle of Fredegar in turn reveals that the Franks believed the Sicambri to be a tribe of Scythian or Cimmerian descent, who had changed their name to Franks in honour of their chieftain Franco in 11 BC.

Tadeusz Sulimirski notes that the Sacae also invaded parts of Northern India, where it is theorised that a number of groups may have encountered historical Scythian influence.[69]

Based on such accounts of Scythian founders of certain Germanic as well as Celtic tribes, British historiography in the British Empire period such as Sharon Turner in his History of the Anglo-Saxons, made them the ancestors of the Anglo-Saxons.

The idea was taken up in the British Israelism of John Wilson, who adopted and promoted the "idea that the "European Race, in particular the Anglo-Saxons, were descended from certain Scythian tribes, and these Scythian tribes (as many had previously stated from the Middle Ages onward) were in turn descended from the ten Lost Tribes of Israel." Tudor Parfitt, author of The Lost Tribes of Israel and Professor of Modern Jewish Studies, points out that the proof cited by adherents of British Israelism is "of a feeble composition even by the low standards of the genre."

According to Patrick J. Geary, many of the peoples once known as the Scythians of Antiquity were amalgamated into the various Slavic peoples of eastern and southeastern Europe.

Linguistically, only modern-day Ossetian and Pashto as well as Yaghnobi and Pamiri languages are similar to old Eastern Iranian languages once spoken by Scythians.

So, for accuracy sake, the Russians have an excellent word for this type of nomadic wandering: "БОМЖ" persons with no place of registered residence.

I have ceased to be impressed with the numerous Ukraine tales once I delved deeper into actual historical events - then witnessed the incredible rewrite and reinvention of history from the talking heads in Kiev. For shame!!!! Making idiots out of trusting EU'ers and Americans, and expecting us to underwrite your fiction as well as bull-baiting the Russkies. Payback might be a painful truth.
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by: Liianna from: USA
August 21, 2014 03:04
perhaps you should have continued reading further. The origin of the word Scythian was a generic term for 'barbarians' recorded in the first century writings of Josephus. Barbarian at that time was a term applied to all peoples, collectively, and tribally, who were not part of the known 'civilized world'. It referred more to people living in a area beyond that 'civilized world', and many of these inhabitants were nomadic tribes, so there is no contradictions with multiple nations claiming ties to Scythia. And, just as an f.y.i., Tatars were once considered a Scythian tribe, as well. BTW, please provide the reference that you copied your information from. Plagiarism is considered very poor taste.

by: Peet from: Slovakia
August 19, 2014 19:52
Who cares about truth. For Putin truth is irrelevant. All media controled by Putin will present fairytail about great russian leader and some crazy guys who try to not follow his lead. And whole russian nation can sleep well at night because there is a good bathushka who will deal with all of those crazy guys, and ordinary people can live in a fantasy land where russia is most important country in whole world with best leader. No change from comunistic times at all.

by: Ray Finch from: Lawrence, KS
August 19, 2014 20:57
Thanks for the article/video clip. RFE readers should understand that this is but the very tip of a dark and dangerous iceberg. I’m afraid that the pro-Kremlin media juggernaut has so helped to poison relations between Russia and Ukraine over the past eight months that it will be generations before any sort of trust and friendship returns. This is not ‘information war’ but ‘information terrorism’ and the producers/purveyors of this deadly poison should be held accountable.

by: jojnjo from: jojnjo/Dublin
August 20, 2014 02:08
Russian media are the joke of the world since Putin came to power they have been put on their knees & told "Repeat this after me" my words alone are the news.Repeat! Repeat! Repeat! Repeat, etc!


Radio Europe, did you hear about the massive Satanic holes appearing in Siberia they found recently, if Putin doesn't get to grips with them Russia will be swallowed up. Or maybe it's Russia themselves digging to many underground nuclear shelters their world will fall in.

PS. It's true, check it out! Siberian Times for one...





Journalists, are so scared they repeat the word instead of what he asked them to repeat... (example underneath).

Repeat! Repeat! Repeat! Repeat, etc!

by: Anonymous
August 20, 2014 06:04
Russian stupid propaganda . They complectely lost the bian .

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