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Leaked Phone Call: Tymoshenko's 'Nuland' Moment?

Like U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland (right), former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko (left) has been caught on tape using some rather forceful, undiplomatic language. (file photo)
Like U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland (right), former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko (left) has been caught on tape using some rather forceful, undiplomatic language. (file photo)
A crackly recording has been posted on YouTube that appears to catch former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko using salty language and calling for all Russians remaining on Ukrainian territory to be killed with an atomic weapon.
The publisher, "Sergiy Vechirko," alleges the call took place on March 18 -- two days after Crimea's referendum calling for reunification with Russia. He also identifies the speakers as Tymoshenko and the former deputy secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, Nestor Shufrych.
The conversation is mostly in Russian, with Shufrych bemoaning the state of affairs in Crimea before Tymoshenko brusquely cuts him off, saying, "Screw it, we should take up arms and kill the goddamned katsaps" -- derogatory Ukrainian slang for Russians -- "along with their leader."
She adds, "I'm sorry I'm not there right now -- there's no way they would have gotten Crimea away from me."
Shufrych goes on to say that a mutual acquaintance, "Viktor," asked what Kyiv should do about the 8 million Russians still living on Ukrainian territory.
"We should hit them with an atomic weapon," Tymoshenko answers back.

WATCH: A YouTube Posting Of Ukrainian Ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko Speaking With Nestor Shufrych

Tymoshenko has acknowledged on Twitter that the phone call was real but said that the content was edited to appear virulently anti-Russian. Regarding the 8 million Russians, Tymoshenko claims her actual statement was "Russians in Ukraine are Ukrainians themselves." She added: "Hi FSB.: )"
The sudden appearance of the recording on YouTube is reminiscent of last month's scandal in which two high-level diplomatic calls were recorded and leaked on social media, including one in which Assistant U.S. Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was caught saying, "F*** the EU."
Tymoshenko was freed from prison last month after her long-time rival, President Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted from power. She had spent nearly three years in jail on abuse of power charges her supporters said were politically motivated.

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Comment Sorting
by: Babeouf from: Republic of Ireland
March 25, 2014 11:28
Well what do you know fascists in government in Ukraine following the Western backed coup. And the Ukrainian politician once the darling of Western politicians wishes she could practice nuclear genocide on the ethnic Russians in Ukraine. If this comes as a shock to a Western reader this is because of constant propaganda of the Western media in favor of the Coup crowd in Kyiv.
In Response

by: Tom Walton from: Toronto
March 27, 2014 14:06
What makes you say that the government in Ukraine contains fascists? The government is made up of people that the population elected. If officials elected to government are not acceptable to you, what do you have to say about the new leader in Crimea, Sergey Valeryevich Aksyonov?

Sergei Aksenov was born in Vladimir. He has studied in Moscow State University of Economics. In 1997 Aksenov was member of National Bolshevik Party. Aksenov was jailed in April, 2001 on charges of terrorism, the forced overthrow of the constitutional order, and the illegal purchase of weapons. Since 2004 Aksenov is member of the Central Committee of the National Bolshevik Party. In 2008 Aksenov was one of the organizers of the Dissenters' March. In 2009 Aksenov was one of the organizers of the Strategy-31. In 2010 Aksenov was cofounder of political party The Other Russia.

His is a Russian from Russia send to Ukraine to make trouble. Who elected him to be the leader of Crimea. Why was the request of some lowly local political activist the thing that Russia responded to? Because it was all set up ahead of time.

First it was the Sudeten Land. Then it was Poland. That was what the fascists did. They took over neighboring countries to "Free" the German speaking population. It was a false reason then and it is a false reason now. Otherwise Russia might invade Canada to protect the Russian speaking people here. Or perhaps they would invade Brooklyn New York, because half of the people there are Russian.

by: Konstantin from: Los Angeles
March 25, 2014 16:27
UK/Ukraine might indeed pose challenge.
As Russian Varangas were idealizing British Empire as mentor.
As British Normans were idealizing Russian Empire as
students, somewhat a bit wild -
As new World made Churchill and Stalin allies and Stalin
tried soften Churchill, showing him in vain his red-haired
daughter -
As I tried remind Brutish, since Russians burned history books,
that Saxons came from Ukraine and Ings from Ingushetia
(North border of Georgia) –
would it be in vain also?
I hope not, unless, not withstanding the threat to Human
Civilization and Caucasian race at large, Britain is still owned
by Norman invaders that have illusion that their students,
Russian Viking-Varanga, will not do to them the same that
they did to a big Norman guy in a movie "The 13th Warrior"...
As Bechtel, with advise of Brits, in 1954, gave to ethnic Russia
technology to build arsenals of A-bombs, to bomb resisting
repopulation by Russia nations, like Georgia and Ukraine –
will British help us all to prohibit Russians use, or threaten
us with A-bombs, to expand their evil Empire?

by: Eugenio from: Vienna
March 25, 2014 18:28
It looks like the Ukrainian "revolutionaries" who were so united just a couple of days ago start killing each other only one month after they came to power: the pro-Timoschenko Min of the Interior Awakow started this by sending his people who killed a "Right Sector" activist Musytschko.
Now Jarosch (the "Right Sector" leader) promises to avenge the death, whereas Awakow will "accept the challenge". Guess who will benefit from this infighting. Correct :-))).

by: Jack from: US
March 26, 2014 02:10
Ukrainian freedom fighters are the best hope of mankind. Soon they will finish liberating each other, and help President Putin liberate Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe from NATO occupation. I know for a fact people of Czech republic, Poland, and Eastern German want to unite with Russia
In Response

by: Sasha-K from: Terre Haute, IN
March 26, 2014 16:05
Ha. Similarly "factually" as South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea wanted to unite with Russia. The factor is Russian AK-47 of intimidation, deceit and fear. Jack, you must be glad to sign up with Russia on this one - it is much easier to solve arguments by erase your opponent. Ukrainian freedom fighters will not help Putin, as they are liberating from him.

by: Sasha-K from: Terre Haute, IN
March 26, 2014 16:16
Юлія just became more popular in my eyes, and I did not expect that. It is an emotional outburst on my part as well. Rationally, many of us are terrified of the continuous spread of separatism between Ukrainians and Russians. Such separatism was very much passive in Ukraine, however actions of Russian Federation challenge Ukrainian passivity, and define Ukrainian nationalism. For record, by blood I have mostly Russian ancestry with a splash of Ukrainian.
In Response

by: Eugenio from: Vienna
March 26, 2014 22:01
In a way, it is this "emotional outburst" that you, Julia, Obama and Frau Merkel have in common: it's just a reflection of your helplessness.
Just amuzing to look at all those NATO decision-"makers" and their friends: they will "kill all Russians", they will "destroy Baschar al-Assad", they will "not allow", "punish", "impose sanctions" - all this empty talk of useless NATO losers.
And in the meantime, others simply ACT: Putin helped the 2.000.000-strong population of Crimea to liberate themselves from Ukraine without firing a single shot, Baschar is helping the friends of Hillary Clinton to make a smooth transition to a better world etc. And all of that without talking too much. Julia, Barack and Merkel would do their respective nations a favour if they learned to act like this...

by: mmchicco from: usa
March 27, 2014 19:34
My first question was - why the conversation was in Russian, not Ukrainian? I have no doubts that Tymoshenko could say something like that, but why did they talked in Russian, especially given the fact that the acknowlegment she gave about the conversation was in Ukrainian.

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