Friday, May 24, 2013


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That's One Misstep For A Man...

Astronaut Charles Duke walked on the moon as part of Apollo 16 in April 1972.
Astronaut Charles Duke walked on the moon as part of Apollo 16 in April 1972.
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Looks like Charles Duke can walk on the moon, but he can't set foot in Azerbaijan.

Baku's Foreign Ministry announced that the U.S. astronaut -- a member of the Apollo 16 mission in 1972 -- has been barred from entering the country.

Seems he and Swiss astronaut Claude Nicollier -- who is also now persona non grata in Baku -- attended an international space conference on September 16 in Stepanakert, the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh, the predominately ethnic-Armenian separatist enclave in Azerbaijan.

The conference was dedicated to Neil Armstrong, the first human to set foot on the moon, who died August 25.

Charles Duke in 2009Charles Duke in 2009
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Charles Duke in 2009
Charles Duke in 2009
Azerbaijani officials said anyone entering the breakaway region without preliminary consultations with Baku automatically becomes persona non grata in Azerbaijan.

In addition to being the 10th man of 12 to walk on the moon, Duke also holds the distinction of being the youngest person to do so. He was 36 years old when he made his moon walk as part of NASA's fifth manned lunar-landing mission.

(Interestingly, he was also the capcom, or capsule communicator, at Mission Control in Houston for Apollo 11 when Armstrong and fellow astronaut Buzz Aldrin first landed on the moon in July 1969. After Armstrong and Aldrin landed safely, and Armstrong announced the historic moment with his famous, "Houston, Tranquility Base here, the 'Eagle' has landed," Duke responded with his almost-equally-famous, "Roger, Tranquility, we copy you on the ground. You've got a bunch of guys about to turn blue. We're breathing again. Thanks a lot.")

Claude Nicollier in 2012Claude Nicollier in 2012
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Claude Nicollier in 2012
Claude Nicollier in 2012
As for Nicollier, he flew on four missions on the U.S. space shuttle program from 1992 to 1999 and became the first astronaut from the European Space Agency to participate in a spacewalk aboard the shuttle.

Why hold a space conference in Nagorno-Karabakh, you might ask? Nagorno-Karabakh's acting education and science minister, Vladik Khachatryan, answered that question in a message addressed to the conference:

“The fact that the Armenian Highland is one of the oldest places on Earth, studying the universe is clearly indicated by the ancient observatories that exist here. Space exploration developed significantly during the 20th century, and can be qualified as the golden era of astronomy in Armenia. We are also very proud of the fact that Artsakh-born scientists have had significant contributions in exploring space."

It may be stretching things a bit, but Nagorno-Karabakh may have been a fitting place for a space conference after all.

Armenia and Azerbaijan have been in conflict for decades over the disputed enclave, with a fragile cease-fire in place since 1994. It's known as one of the post-Soviet "frozen conflicts" still plaguing the region. And the moon holds the distinction of being the coldest place in our solar system.
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by: Derek from: Little Hawana, MI
September 19, 2012 14:31
Nagorno-Karabakh and space program? These guys are landblocked, poverty stricken folks who cant even afford their own satellite. And if Im not mistaken, Nagorno-Karabakh isnt even a country. So why dont we just stop the acting and tell it what it is. A provocation.
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by: notDerek from: Philadelphia
September 19, 2012 23:23
i guess you need a sea port to fly to space?
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by: Johnson from: NY
September 20, 2012 01:31
You either don't know the meaning of provocation, or don't know what you're talking about. Regardless of what Nagorno-Karabakh is or isn't, to ban prominent astronauts for visiting this place is, for lack of a better word...a provocation.

Let me give you another, and a very real, two-word definition of the word "provocation": Ramill Safarov
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by: Musa from: baku
September 21, 2012 00:37
I guess, all those 600,000 Azeris who were expelled and ethnically cleaned form their homelands should have gone to moon! and the so called NK government who was responsible for the ethnic cleansing and organizing the conference were asking help from Mr. Duke on how to fly all those Azeris to moon!

by: Meridiyan from: Chelyabinsk
September 19, 2012 14:36
Dear God, I guess these guys will make up any kind of story to get some attention. Azerbaijan actually made some big contributions to the exploration of space. The Soviet-Azerbaijani scientist Kerim Kerimov, was one of the founders of the Soviet space industry, and for decades a central figure in the Soviet space program. Despite his prominent role, his identity was kept a secret from the public for most of his career. Kerimov was one of the leading architects behind the string of Soviet successes that stunned the world from the late 1950s. Like the first satellite, the Sputnik 1 in 1957, and the first human spaceflight of Yuri Gagarin in 1961. Kerimov was also the one responsible for the first fully automated space docking, of Cosmos 186 and Cosmos 188 in 1967, and the first space stations, the Salyut and Mir series from 1971 to 1991. Another contributor of Azerbaijani origin was Musa Manarov, this astronaut spend more then 500 days in space. It was kind of a big deal back then.
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by: minas
September 20, 2012 03:24
You forgot to mention that national hero ramil safarov's grandfather was the man behind Apollo 13 success, they actually built the rocket using a special ax imported from azerbaijan. It always amazes me how humble and modest you azeris are!

by: Camel Anaturk from: Kurdistan
September 19, 2012 15:17
Exploring the universe will be a lot easier and cheaper than turning azeri Ilhamistan into a civilized country.Yes it will be a giant step for mankind and one hopes that the current petrol station of Ali Babalievich will become part of mankind.But if that happens what shall we do with Ali BabalyIlham and his much more than 40 gang of thieves and hordes of bootlickers? Well,good old Ray Bradbury has an answer for that in his Martian chronicles-ship `em all to the red planet with a one-way ticket!!!
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by: Alex from: LA
September 21, 2012 01:06
Just like they (Turks using Kurds and the other Turks) shipped Armenians with one way ticket to afterlife.

by: Zareh Sahakian from: Canada
September 19, 2012 16:00
What does it say about a country who declares as persona non grata in Azerbaijan truly remarkable men such as the astronauts American Charles Duke and the Swiss Claude Nicollier, while elevates a certain racist criminal called Ramil Safarov to the levels of a national hero.

Azerbaijan "punishes" true heroes of the 20th century, space explorers for visiting a country which has declared its intention not to be subjugated to the tyranny from Baku, while the same Azerbaijan "rewards" of psychotic killer who demonstrates his "heroism" by killing a sleeping Armenian officer in a foreign capital who had invited both to come and study at a NATO sponsored program.

Azerbaijan has been permitted by the international community to behave like a rogue state, now they are faced with an out of control international misfit.

Congratulations to both astronauts for defying a racist government in Baku and sending a clear message to teh Azeri president, Aliyev, that such rogue behaviour is unacceptable to the civilized world.

by: Armenian from: United States
September 19, 2012 17:46
When are these azeri going to learn that Armenian science will over take their oil which is being used to create country which did not even exist 100 years ago. NK was, is and will be Armenian.
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by: Robert Weingart from: Europe
September 20, 2012 11:33
As many things Armenians try to call beeing a birthplace of Astronomy like thei try to call beeing the first Christians and the first in Karabakh. Ridicoulous.
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by: BooBoo from: Bibi
September 20, 2012 20:36
Robert you don't need anybody to discredit you, you do it yourself. Armenia IS in fact the first Christian nation....if you had the wits to bother checking it. Astronomy is an ancient science with Armenians, that too you can check, but I understand this is impossible since you are preoccupied more with hatred rather than objectivity.
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by: Alex from: LA
September 21, 2012 01:18
Ya birthplace of Astronomy is impossible to determine, but the oldest structure in the world that was used for star gazing is in Armenia. go read about it, more scientific papers are going to be published on it soon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorats_Karer

And debating that Armenians are one of the oldest nations/civilizations in history is envious way of hating on Armenians. We are the people that said Hi to Noah thousands of years ago, and helped find the humanity and spread around the world again. So thank Armenians, because your ancestors most likely came from there. And stop the hating out of envy. We make even Jews envious, too, maybe that's why they been helping Turks with genocide denial.
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by: Armenian from: United States
September 21, 2012 05:07
I am not sure why the truth is ridiculous for you? Would you explain?

by: Truth from: Armenian Diaspora
September 19, 2012 23:09
Dear Derek,
I can't really get the link you have made between Nagorno-Karapagh Armenians nowadays socio-economic conditions, and their obsession towards space program.
Anyway, just to get more informed, you can google search "Armenian Carahunge/Stonehenge" and see that Armenians have had their Stoenehenge 7500 years ago, according to non-armenian scientists.
And btw, this Carahunge is located in Armenia, just a couple of kilometers away from the unrecognized state of Nagorno-Karapagh(FYO it is a country)

So why dont YOU just put an end to your comments that show your level of ignorance and instead work on educating yourself ? :)

Zarah Sahakian, and Armenian.. Very well said hayrenagitsner :)

by: April1915 from: FR
September 20, 2012 10:37
Armenians have many Heroes, most recently World Chess Champions, Americans also have lots of Heroes, Azeris have heroes too, Ramil Safarov!

by: Musa from: baku
September 21, 2012 00:41
Did RFERL ask Mr. Khachatryan about sending those 600,000 Azeris ethnically cleansed from Karabakh back to their homelands? Should be easier than sending human to moon! Ridiculous that RFERL is supporting the Armenian nonsense with this kinds of articles!

by: Ian from: Baku
September 21, 2012 09:01
Dear RFE/RL,
It’s really not so difficult to understand Azerbaijan’s position on this; it is the same as that of the USA and every other country. If I entered the USA without the state’s permission, the state would surely take sanctions against me.
What is different about Azerbaijan taking sanctions against people who enter Azerbaijan without its permission?
That Nagorno-Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan is recognised by every legal precept. No state or international body (including Armenia) recognises any other condition. Thus the current situation in Nagorno-Karabakh is one of occupation. Phrases like ‘disputed enclave’ only serve to muddy the waters. The purpose of journalism is to provide clarity. Please do so.
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by: Lucy Smith from: London
September 21, 2012 14:24
To Ian from the azerbaijani-occupied Armenian city of Baku: since Nagorno Karabakh is an autonomous republic inside Armenia, and belongs to the Armenians, there's no need to ask Azerbaijan for permission to visit Stepanakert or wherever in Nagorno Karabakh.
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by: Musa from: Armenian land - world!
September 22, 2012 00:05
Lucy, how long have you been in London? is London also historical Armenian land occupied by British Empire?
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by: Lucy Smith from: London
September 22, 2012 13:30
To Musa: I was born and and always lived in London. London is not an Armenian city, Baku is an azerbaijani-occupied Armenian city (Baku was built by the Armenians). If you read the Anglo Saxon Chronicles, you'll find out the British people came from Armenia. The British empire doesn't exist any more.

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