RFE/RL: Is it possible for Europe ever to have security in energy matters, considering it must be imported from somewhere?
Robert Larsson: It depends on what you mean by energy security. In my book, energy security encompasses more than just security of supply. It's crucial, therefore, to include more parameters than just security of supply. We must also take into consideration the political dimension, and look at the price mechanism to be the guiding factor in this case. We must open up so that the market becomes transparent. Otherwise confidence will forever be ruined, and it would be impossible to reach the political side of energy security.
RFE/RL: Europe doesn't want to couple its future too closely to Russia. But what other alternatives are there?
Larsson: I don't believe that we have many alternatives to Russia. Therefore, ensuring that Russia is moving in the right direction is one of our key objectives. So far, Russia has not been moving in the right direction. In a democratic sense, in an economic sense, it's a very unstable state, and this is a worrying trend.
RFE/RL: Surely then we should be cautious and try to develop other sources of energy?
Larsson: Yes, of course, we can't find one solution to all the problems. Diversification is one [solution], energy efficiency is one, moving toward price mechanisms instead of politics is one, more transparency is one, and all [these strategies] together will improve the situation.
RFE/RL: What can we do to defend our supply lines, in a military sense, against the possibility of increasing terrorism?
Larsson: Well, we must remember that the prime threat to the security of supply in the short-term perspective is not terrorism, or even politics. It's Mother Nature. That's the biggest problem -- shortage of supply. But most of our political attention is directed toward the threat of terrorism. But terrorism is only a minor problem in the short-term perspective. It's easier to cope with that than to cope with political unreliability or a deficit in gas.